Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 21 March 2024



  • Kat Hunter, Chair (KH)
  • Matthew Wilder, Vice Chair (MW)
  • Doug Camin (DC)
  • Matthew Gamble (MG)
  • Gerry George (GG)
  • Elizabeth Goodson (EG)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Kendrick Knowles (KK)
  • Kaitlyn Pellak (KP)
  • Gus Reese (GR)
  • Leif Sawyer (LS)
  • Daniel Schatte (DS)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, General Counsel
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Eddie Diego, Policy Analyst
  • Jenny Fulmer, Staff Attorney
  • Richard Jimmerson, COO
  • Lisa Liedel, Director, Registration Services
  • Therese Simcox, Sr. E.A.
  • John Sweeting, Chief Customer Officer


  • Alison Wood

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. ET. The presence of a quorum was noted. It was acknowledged that GG was delayed due to technical difficulties.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by DC, and seconded by AT, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the 15 February 2024 Minutes, as written.”

The Chair called for comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update.

DC stated that the staff and legal review had been received and the policy shepherds incorporated updates to the text. An updated version was posted. They await presenting the draft policy at ARIN 53.

BJ stated that there were no changes at this time and the policy shepherds are waiting to present this policy at ARIN 53. He noted that KP will be presenting it, and they hope to move it to last call after the meeting.

AT stated that there were no changes at this time and the shepherds are waiting to present the draft policy at ARIN 53. She noted that DS will present it. AT also stated that the slides are ready and waiting review.

KK stated that there are no changes at this time. Policy shepherds are waiting to present it at ARIN 53.

8. ARIN-2023-6: ARIN Waitlist Qualification.

AT stated that the staff and legal review has been received and recommended updates to the text were made. It was reposted but no comments received to date.

It was moved by AT, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council moves ‘Draft Policy ARIN-2023-6: ARIN Waitlist Qualification’ to Recommended Draft Policy status.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motioned carried with 13 in favor and 1 abstention (GG) via roll call vote. GG joined the call after discussion had occurred and he recused himself from this item.

The Chair requested that AT provide a conformance statement to staff and the Chair and Vice Chair. AT acknowledged.

CW stated that the policy shepherds are awaiting presenting the policy at ARIN 53. He noted a point of concern of the timing of moving the policy forward given Draft Policy 2022-12 has not moved forward and this policy, 2023-7, is dependent upon it. He noted that he would be making it a discussion point in his slides not to move this policy forward until 2022-12 has a clear path. He personally did not see value in making a non-editorial, substantive change that would change the criteria under which multi-discreet networks are approved. It is not a desired outcome.

The AC consulted with the Policy Analyst about the timeline for advancing the policy before it reverts to draft policy status per the Policy Development Process (PDP).

DC stated for clarity that 2022-12 changes the definition for allocations and assignments and this policy is written with the assumption that those definitions are changed by the time this policy comes to fruition.

10. Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation.

GG stated that there have been no changes to the is policy and he is looking at targeting discussion at ARIN 53 as there are dissenting views on the subject as to the need for a waitlist. The Chair stated that GR will head the table topic on this item and to please provide him any questions that GG would like discussed. GG agreed to do so.

11. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID.

GR stated that have been no updates since last AC meeting. He stated that the definition is solid, and he looks forward to presenting the policy at ARIN 53 for the community’s feedback.

12. ARIN-prop-329: WHOIS Data Requirements Policy for Non-Personal Information.

LS stated that the policy shepherds met and discussed the text. He noted that the problem statement is clear, but there are conflicts that may be out of scope as operational process mandates. Regardless, he indicated that it should be discussed, and intended to make a motion to move it forward.

It was moved by LS, and seconded by GR, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-329: WHOIS Data Requirements Policy for Non-Personal Information’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for comments. MW stated that it is an interesting policy and looks forward to getting the community’s feedback.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

13. ARIN-prop-330: Edit Section 2.

KK stated that this is an editorial change of one word, changing ‘it’ to ‘in’.

It was moved by KK, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-330: Edit Section 2’ as an editorial update.”

The Chair called for comments. The Chair noted this was a good catch by the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and the proposal was very well-written by the PER WG.

The motioned carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

14. ARIN AC Working Groups

  • Policy Experience Report Working Group (PER WG) Update. BJ stated that the WG has held their first meeting and has submitted one proposal. The group will likely cancel their April meeting as the WG is up to date on their items. CW stated that the WG awaits the next PER resulting from ARIN 53.

15. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business items.

  • Changes in Employment and Affiliation. None reported.
  • ARIN 53 Public Policy Meeting Reminders
    • ARIN Fellowship Program. The Chair stated the Fellowship Program has begun. There are 5 sessions for ARIN 53 Fellows. Session 1 for the Fellowship was earlier in the week and there were four more sessions to come. The Chair thanked the Fellowship mentors and asked the AC that if they see a lost Fellow, please direct them to their mentor during ARIN 53.
    • ARIN 53 Slides. The Chair stated slides are due March 22 and to submit them quickly as reviews will be taking place. Each deck should have an ‘impact slide’ included that may make the participation at microphone livelier, as suggested by the Board. Slides will be finalized by March 29. Please get them into Chair by Wednesday, March 27.
    • Double Check Slides. The Chair asked to check the ARIN website for your policy to compare it to the slides to ensure that they match.
  • ARIN 53 Table Topics. The Chair stated table topics will be taking place on Monday, April 15. She reviewed the AC members assigned to each one:
    • NRPM Section 6 evolution topics. CW primary, BJ secondary.
    • NRPM Section 4 Simplification. GR primary, KK secondary.
    • Registrations & Privacy. LS primary, DS secondary.
  • AC Face-to-face Meeting. The Chair stated that the AC’s face-to-face meeting will be held immediately following the last session at ARIN 53. A Zoom will be provided for anyone attending virtually. She acknowledged other conflicting activities (CaribNog) and stated the AC’s meeting is slated for two hours.

16. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:38 p.m. ET. CW moved to adjourn, seconded by DS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.