Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 20 November 2025

Teleconference

Draft Minutes

These minutes are DRAFT. They have been reviewed by the ARIN Advisory Council prior to posting. These minutes will remain draft until they are reviewed and approved by the ARIN Advisory Council at their next regularly scheduled meeting.

ARIN AC Attendees:

  • Kat Hunter, Chair (KH)
  • Lily Botsyoe (LB)
  • Doug Camin (DC)
  • Gerry George (GG)
  • Elizabeth Goodson (EG)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Kendrick Knowles (KK)
  • Kaitlyn Pellak (KP)
  • Gus Reese (GR)
  • Leif Sawyer (LS)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Matthew Wilder (MW)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Eddie Diego, Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson, COO
  • Jennifer Lee, Deputy General Counsel
  • Lisa Liedel, Dir. Registration Services
  • Marty McLaughlin, Manager, CXS
  • Therese Simcox, Sr. Executive Assistant/Scribe
  • Joe Westover, Acting CXO/Dir. CXS

Regrets:

  • William Herrin

1. Welcome.

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. ET. The presence of a quorum was noted. She acknowledged regrets from WH.

2. Agenda Review.

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments or changes. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes.

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by BJ, and seconded by AW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the 31 October 2025 Minutes, as written.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

CW stated that the based on comments at the microphone at ARIN 56, he is working on additional consulting with SMEs. Most objections were on the TLD side of the CII. He stated there has been no progress thus far.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2025-1: Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text.

LS stated that there have been no changes since the last AC meeting. It is a large change to the document based on the community’s request and he is working on it.

GR stated that he had no specific updates. The Last Call period expired yesterday, and he sent the text to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML). There has been no feedback either way.

It was moved by GR, and seconded by DC, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2025-2: Clarify 8.5.1 Registration Services Agreement’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for discussion. MW stated that this policy had strong support at ARIN 56 and no one commenting thus far can be taken as a positive. There are no objections or notifications of errors.

The motion carried with all in favor (14), via roll call vote.

The Chair thanked GR for his work on this policy.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2025-3: Change Section 9, Out of Region Use Minimum Criteria.

DC stated that there are no changes at this time. He is reviewing the feedback from ARIN 56.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2025-6: Fix Formula in 6.5.2.1c.

GR stated that WH posted feedback from ARIN 56 to the PPML. He is monitoring the PPML for feedback, but a couple of people responded reiterating their previous views on this draft policy. WH has not noticed any new respondents or changes in positions on the draft.

9. Draft Policy ARIN-2025-7: Make Policy in 6.5.8.2 Match the Examples.

LB stated that he is reviewing the comments from ARIN 56 and feedback from the PPML. There has been one minor edit so far and she will monitor the PPML for any further feedback.

(KK left call at this time (4:14 p.m.) due to a conflict.)

10. Draft Policy ARIN-2025-8: Reserve 4.10 space for In-Region Use.

KP stated that the staff and legal review have been completed. She suggested posting the text to the PPML for one final pass through and intends on moving the policy forward at the AC’s December meeting. MW and LB agreed. KP noted that one person had a concern on the language and believed it was a good idea to post it to the PPML one final time.

11. ARIN AC Working Groups.

  • Policy Experience Report Working Group (PER WG) Update. AW stated that the WG met last week and has three topics – one of which is tabled until to next quarter. The WG is working on the other two topics, and they are excited for what is to come.

  • Number Resource Policy Manual Working Group (NRPM WG) Update. BJ stated that there were no updates at this time and the WG is available to help.

  • Policy Engagement Working Group. (PE WG) Update. DC stated that the WG met after the October AC meeting and worked out strategies for next steps. Table topic feedback from ARIN 56 was received. Additionally, LB and he solicited feedback and culled it together. They worked on putting a survey together, clarifying its contents. He stated the survey will be reviewed by the WG and will send it to the community. It will contain items such as usage of the PPML and suggested potential useful or beneficial items. They have a prioritized list on which to focus.

The Chair stated that she looked at the list and it looks great to her. It looks comprehensive but not overwhelming. She suggested trying to publish the survey in the first two weeks of December before the holidays. DC agreed. He believed what they have is based on feedback received. He is also looking to Communications for feedback as well.

AT encouraged the AC to post the survey to any groups they are involved with as well when it is published.

The Chair stated that Communications reached out to her on re-doing older videos on the PDP and on policy writing. She stated it is great to work with them to get that worked out and have a mini training for any proposal authors. The WG working with Communications has been extremely beneficial.

12. Any Other Business.

The Chair called for any other business.

  • Changes in Employment and Affiliation. None reported.
  • Expense Reports. The Chair stated that reports are due 30 days or sooner from the end of ARIN 56 (by 01 December).
  • AC F2F 2026. The Chair stated that flight information has been distributed from staff. She cautioned that the Superbowl will also be in SFO, not the same week, but there may be congestion.
  • 2026 AC Travel. The Chair noted there have been 10 AC members selected for travel and it has been distributed. She noted a small change to the selection. The newly elected AC member will be in the last slot for travel in order for her to focus her first year on AC work and ARIN related items. The Policy Analyst will be processing the selection for the last four AC members.
  • Informational Item. The COO stated that staff, per the Board, have been working on moving ARIN’s data center infrastructure and we are at the end of the project. We are currently in the move phase. During the next two weeks, staff will work to complete the project but may be slower in publishing items to the website during this time.
  • ARIN Holiday Party. CW reminded AC about the holiday party and that the deadline to RSVP is approaching. The COO thanked him and added that if any AC members are in the area at the time, please RSVP. He noted that there are two AC members who are attending and ARIN looks forward to seeing the AC there if schedules permit.

14. Adjournment.

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:28 p.m. ET. LS moved to adjourn, seconded by LB. The meeting adjourned with no objections.

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