Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 13 March 2003 [Archived]


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Council Members

  • Alec Peterson, Chairman (AP)
  • Dana Argiro (DA)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Ron da Silva (RD)
  • Sanford H. George (SHG)
  • Mark Kosters (MK)
  • Lea Roberts (LR)
  • John Sweeting (JS)
  • Stacy Taylor (ST)


  • Cathy Wittbrodt
  • Suzanne Woolf


  • Avi Freedman
  • Kevin Martin

ARIN Staff Attendees

  • Ray Plzak, ARIN President (RP)
  • Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Director of Operations (RJ)
  • Thérèse Colosi, ARIN Recording Secretary

1. Welcome

AP called the meeting to order at 4:08 p.m. EST. Roll call was taken, and the presence of a quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

No comments.

3. Appointment of Interim Member to ARIN AC

ST moved that the ARIN Advisory Council appoint Andrew Dul as an Interim Member of the ARIN AC. LR seconded. BD suggested an amendment to add “based upon receipt of 5% of the vote during the last election.”

ST and LR accepted this friendly amendment. The motion carried unanimously.

4. Discussion of 2002 carried-over Policy Proposals

Policy Proposal 2002-3: Micro-Assignments

The authors have drafted some clarifying language to the proposal, as requested by the AC. They have also expressed a lack of interest in pushing the proposal at this time, as it is felt there is not enough participation in the process by those who need the new policy.

This policy proposal has been open for discussion for over six months an can be discussed at the ARIN XI meeting to finally determine if there is consensus to adopt or reject the proposed policy. The modified text of the proposal will be posted to the mailing list following the AC meeting.

RJ stated that the authors were no longer interested in moving forward due to lack of community interest, but had written revised text that would be helpful for discussion. He asked the AC what they thought of posting the proposal to list with no support from author.

After brief discussion it was decided that RJ would send a message to authors stating that it is understood that they do not wish to continue to support the proposal, however they did provide clarifying language at last meeting. RJ would ask for their permission to post this language to the list. If the authors agreed, ARIN would post the language, and explain the circumstances that the proposal was posted under. If the authors did not agree to posting the clarifying language, then the proposal would stand in it’s original form, and a message would be sent to the list stating that clarified language was not provided for publication. Then the community could decide if it should move forward with this proposal or not.

All accepted this plan with no objections.

Policy Proposal 2002-8: Privatizing POCs

The author made a comment during the final call of this proposal stating the policy should only be applied to certain types of POCs. The AC and ARIN staffs have attempted to contact the author for modified language over the past months without success.

This proposal language should be able to be modified according to discussions held at the meeting and on the mailing list for posting as a new “final call”.

Last Call Message:

*** Last Call: Policy Proposal 2002-8 ***

2002-8: Privatizing POC Information

ARIN’s new database allows an organization to designate several points of contact for their organization and resource records. Available types of POCs are Admin, Technical, Abuse, and NOC. If an organization designates several POCs for the management of their organization or resource records in the ARIN database, they are made available via ARIN WHOIS. In order for a point of contact to conduct resource administration for a given resource record in the ARIN database, that POC does have to be associated with the resource record in the ARIN database, and therefore is listed in ARIN WHOIS.

It is proposed organizations be able to designate certain points of contact as private from ARIN WHOIS, with the exception that, at the minimum, one point of contact must be viewable.

Author’s message in response:

Since the Admin is the only contact that requires a “real” person, does anyone have an issue with just allowing the privatization of the AdminHandle? This would mean that all other handles would be viewable except the AdminHandle. During the ARIN meeting, I believe it was discussed that the personal names were the issues, not the role accounts.

JS stated Tanya Hinman was the author and that her last comment is noted above, but the original statement also stands as is and needs to be posted back to list for last comments. The Chair asked for any objections. There were no objections.

5. Any Other Business

AP reminded the Council that the next regularly scheduled teleconference is to take place on March 27, 2003 at 4:00 p.m. EST.

The AC welcomed DA to the group.

6. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:22 p.m. EST. BD moved to adjourn and this was seconded by JS. The motion carried unanimously.


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