Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 17 November 2022



  • Leif Sawyer, Chair (LS)
  • Kat Hunter, Vice Chair (KH)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Anita Nikolich (AN)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Joe Provo (JP)
  • Kerrie Richards (KR)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Matthew Wilder (MW)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, (MA) General Counsel
  • John Curran, (JC) President & CEO
  • Jenny Fulmer, (JF) Staff Attorney
  • Sean Hopkins, (SH) Senior Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson, (RJ) COO
  • Lisa Liedel, Director, Registration Services
  • Therese Simcox, Scribe, Senior Executive Assistant
  • John Sweeting, (CCO) Chief Customer Officer


Newly-elected 2023 Advisory Council Members

  • Douglas Camin
  • Gerry George
  • Kendrick Knowles
  • Gus Reese


  • Alyssa Quinn (AQ)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:03 p.m. ET. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair welcomed the AC and observers to the call. He noted that observers on the call will have full voting rights at the beginning of their terms on January 1, 2023.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by AD, and seconded by JP, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 21 October 2022, as written.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4.\ 2023 AC Appointee

(Informational item)

Rob Seastrom has resigned his seat effective as of 31 December 2022 as he was recently elected to the ARIN Board of Trustees. The next runner up in the ARIN 2022 AC Election is Doug Camin, who would be chosen as the person to fill the vacant seat as of 01 January 2023.

In light of this, on 31 October 2022, the Chair proposed the following motion to the AC’s mailing list:

“The Advisory Council, recognizing the resignation of Robert Seastrom, effective 31 December 2022, appoints Doug Camin to fill the remainder of his current term, ending 31 December 2023 in accordance with the AC Standing Rules.”

On 2 November 2022, AC members responded unanimously in favor of the motion.

The Chair noted Mr. Seastrom’s term would have ended 31 December 2024. As appointments last for a one-year period, Mr. Camin will fill the remaining portion of the term to end 31 December 2023. The Chair has confirmed that Mr. Camin has accepted the appointment to the ARIN Advisory Council for 2023. The remaining 1-year portion (year of 2024) of Mr. Seastrom’s term will be filled by the AC election in 2023.

RS stated that this was policy moved to last call on 21 October 2023.

It was moved by RS, and seconded by KH, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-6: Allowance for IPv4 Allocation “Swap” Transactions via 8.3 Specified Transfers and 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for discussion. AD noted that there were two comments on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML), to ensure they were addressed. RS stated that they were indeed noted. He stated there are processes in place for reclamation of space acquired fraudulently. Doug Camin had posted one of two comments and stated that his was of an academic nature regarding stopping the abuse of policies. He had nothing new to add.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

AN stated that there were no changes at this time. They are monitoring the PPML for community feedback as there have been only half a dozen comments and the policy warrants more discussion.

CW stated that the policy went through the last call period after the last meeting, and there have been no comments or objections raised.

It was moved by CW, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-1: MDN Clarification for Qualification’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

KR stated that were no changes at this time. The conformance statement has been submitted and there has not been much feedback. They are monitoring the PPML and will move the policy to last call if no further comments are received.

MW stated that this policy has gone through the process and presented at ARIN 50. It will likely need to go to ARIN 51 for discussion. They will monitor feedback on the PPML in the meantime.

10. ARIN-edit-2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2

AW stated that the staff and legal review was received with concerns, however the community feels the policy is editorial. The policy will be presented at ARIN 51 in April.

11. Draft Policy ARIN-2022-5: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.11.

AW stated that after presenting the policy at ARIN 50, it is likely AQ will be going to speak with community networks folks and will provide an update at the next AC meeting in December.

12. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language.

CT stated that the staff and legal review has been recently received. They will be reviewing it and the comments on the PPML before proposing further text changes.

13. ARIN-edit-2022-10: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.4 and 2.5.

AN stated that incorrect text had been previously posted to the PPML. The correct text was posted on October 26, and the period ends on November 26. The policy will be addressed at the AC’s December meeting.

14.. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Sections 2.17 and 2.18.

AW stated that there was concern regarding the definition and function of ‘IANA’ and the authors agreed to drop them from policy. The updated policy has been submitted back to the authors and the AC’s Wiki will be updated with the revised text.

15. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-12: Direct Allocation Language Update

RS stated that he and the Chair had a meeting with staff to discuss their concerns and talk about a definition that was missing. The changes will be made, and it will be ready for a staff and legal review. The Chair, as the other policy shepherd, stated that staff was not overly concerned but wanted the clarification to ensure we were not missing anything.

16. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-13: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10

CW stated that the policy was presented at ARIN 50, and the feedback was that the language was complex and difficult to understand. The policy has been revised for clarity and posted to the PPML, and it is being monitored for feedback

17. ARIN AC Working Groups

  • Number Resource Policy Manual Working Group (NRPM WG) Update. JP stated that the WG is examining possible streamlining for 215 and 216. It is possible that they do not need to be separate definitions and they are considering the usefulness of that. Feedback was received from ARIN 50 and the WG is considering a workflow change in 2023.

  • Policy Development Process Working Group (PDP WG) Update. It was noted that the PDP WG held a scheduled meeting on 16 November. AP stated that AD made revisions to the Policy Development Process (PDP) based on feedback received from the ARIN Board of Trustees during the community feedback period. Staff sent a clean copy of the revised PDP, from the meeting on 16 November, to the full AC today. AP asked if there were any comments.

    AD added that the feedback from a Board member was to draft and cleanup language regarding the ‘Internet community’ and that the two flow charts at the end of the document have had minor updates for clarification.

    The President stated that the goal was to get this done this year. He proposed that the AC review the PDP one more time for finality and move it to the Board for adoption at the AC‘s December meeting.

    CT requested that if there were further changes, that another document be produced to show the changes. The Chair noted that the revisions are being tracked.

    The Chair suggested that the PDP be reviewed after today’s AC meeting adjourns if members were available. AD stated that he would be happy to stay after the meeting. The Chair stated they will review the document after the meeting.

  • Policy Experience Report Working Group (PER WG) Update. AW stated that there are two potential policies regarding waitlist. Feedback was received from the community and the proposals will be drafted in the next few weeks and posted to the PPML.

19. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.

  • Changes in Employment and Affiliation. CW stated that he is legally affiliated with Twitter until January, but no longer providing services to them.
  • ARIN Harassment Prevention Training Deadline. The President stated the training is required for volunteers, and notifications need to be made to the Board if it is not completed. He noted that the deadline to take the training is tomorrow, however he has extended the availability of the training through the end of the weekend to ensure everyone has an opportunity to complete the training.
  • Expense Reports. The Chair reminded the AC to submit their expenses from the ARIN 50 meeting.

AQ joined at this time, 4:40 p.m. ET.

20. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:41 p.m. ET. CT moved to adjourn, seconded by RS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.