Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 20 January 2022

via Teleconference


  • Leif Sawyer, Chair (LS)
  • Kat Hunter, Vice Chair (KH)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Anita Nikolich (AN)
  • Joe Provo (JP)
  • Alyssa Quinn (AQ)
  • Kerrie Richards (KR)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Matthew Wilder (MW)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, (MA) General Counsel
  • Jenny Fulmer, (JF) Staff Attorney
  • Sean Hopkins, (SH) Senior Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson, (COO), Chief Operating Officer
  • Lisa Liedel, (LL) Director, Registration Services
  • Thérèse Simcox, Sr. Executive Assistant, Scribe
  • John Sweeting, (CCO) Chief Customer Officer


  • Amy Potter

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:07 p.m. ET. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair acknowledged regrets from AP and that RS and CT would be delayed.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

(Exhibit A) (Exhibit B)

A) It was moved by AW and seconded by MW that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 18 November 2021, as written.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

B) It was moved by KH and seconded by AW that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 16 December 2021, as written.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Draft Policy ARIN-2020-6: Allowance for IPv4 Allocation “Swap” Transactions via 8.3 Specified Transfers and 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers.

The Chair stated that since RS was unavailable at this time, this item would be discussed later in the meeting.

KR stated that this policy’s last call ended January 6th and that there has been no further discussion on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML).

It was moved by KR and seconded by MW that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2021-2: Special Use IPv4 Space Out of Scope for Purposes of Determining Waitlist Eligibility’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no further comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications.

JP stated that the staff and legal review request was submitted this week. There are no changes as they await the results of the review.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-4: Clarifications to Sections 8.3, 8.4 and 8.5.6.

AQ stated that language was updated language in mid- to late December. No comments have been received; therefore, the changes have been made to the language. AQ requested that the Chair request a staff and legal review to be conducted. The Chair stated he would do so after this meeting.

8. ARIN-edit-2021-5: Update ISP and End User References For 2022 Fee Schedule.

JP stated that no substantive comments have been received from the PPML since the changes were posted. He stated that there will be no further changes until the end of the review period on PPML.

9. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement.

AD stated that he had posted an update to the AC’s list earlier this month with a link to working draft of this draft policy. He asked the AC for their review and asked them to note if it should be posted to PPML. AD noted that this version is a large change from the original text. The Chair encouraged the AC to review the document and provide their feedback.

10. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful.

AQ stated that there have been no changes made to this policy. Positive feedback has been received from the PPML, but there will not be any changes until the ARIN Public Policy Meeting in April.

11. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the ‘Autonomous System Originations’ field.

AT stated that the policy shepherds updated the language and posted it to the PPML but there had been no discussion. They then tried to prompt discussion and they received one response this week stating that having the original AS field is helpful. AT stated she would like the AC’s input as well.

12. ARIN-prop-305: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM, Section 2

AW stated that a meeting is scheduled with the AC’s NRPM WG to review the changes and a draft will be ready to review by tomorrow. She noted that the proposal needs to be broken apart into editorial and non-editorial, before making a motion to move it forward.

13. ARIN-prop-306: MDN Clarification for Qualification

CW stated that one question about a clarification in the text was answered. He stated that when the shepherds get the language updated in the proposal they will make a motion to move it forward.

14. ARIN AC Working Groups

The Chair called for updates from the AC’s working groups.

  • Number Resource Policy Manual Working Group (NRPM WG) Update. JP stated that initial progress on Section 6 is underway with MW. The AC’s Style Guide updates have been received by staff. He noted that next month they will discuss ARIN-prop-305 to see how it can be split between editorial and non-editorial parts.

  • Policy Development Process Working Group (PDP WG) Update. The Chair stated that AP was not on the call but stated that SH noted that the PDP is actively under review by the President.

  • Policy Experience Report Working Group (PER WG) Update. AW stated that the WG is caught up and there are no updates at this time.

15. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business items.

  • Changes in AC Member Affiliation or Employment. No changes were reported.

  • Review Proposed Changes to AC Standing Rules. The Chair stated that there were slight changes to the Standing Rules to be more in line with travel with regard to COVID. The AC needs to review and approve the proposed changes to their Standing Rules for approval by the ARIN Board of Trustees. The AC reviewed the edits and discussion ensued with suggestions made.

    CT joined the call at this time (4:34 p.m.).

    After discussing, the Chair stated that staff will add text on how to agree in advance to a meeting with a simple majority and wavier of notice that requires unanimous acceptance. The AC will discuss the updated text at their next meeting. All agreed.

  • Welcome New AC Members Chris Woodfield and Brian Jones The Chair welcomed CW back to the AC and welcomed BJ to the AC as a new member. They thanked the Chair and AC.

  • Discuss February AC Face-to-Face The Chair stated called for any comments or concerns on traveling to San Diego in February. The COO provided comments on ARIN’s complete flexibility with anyone’s travel to this meeting, reiterating that ARIN is flexible with whatever makes them comfortable, traveling or not traveling, air travel routing, tickets, last minute purchases or cancellations, etc. He stated ARIN’s appreciation for the AC’s work as volunteers for the ARIN community. The Chair thanked him and staff for their work on coordinating the meeting.

    AD asked when the decision will be made as to whether the meeting will be held in-person or not. The Chair stated he expected to know by February 12.

    Discussion ensued on PCR testing for those folks who are flying from another country, and what happens if someone tests positive for COVID. The COO assured the members that ARIN will be at hand to accommodate anyone who needs to quarantine and will investigate mobile, on-site testing at the hotel.

    It was asked and confirmed that ARIN’s medical coverage for volunteers will cover Covid related expenses.

RS joined at this time (4:53 p.m.). The Chair stated that item 4 would be discussed at this time, as RS had joined and was one of the policy shepherds.

4. Draft Policy ARIN-2020-6: Allowance for IPv4 Allocation “Swap” Transactions via 8.3 Specified Transfers and 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers.

RS stated that he intended to request a staff and legal review but did not due to scheduling conflicts. He stated he would do so within the next week or so.

16. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:57 p.m. ET. AT moved to adjourn, seconded by AW. The meeting adjourned with no objections.