ARIN Public Policy Meeting Day 2 Notes - Thursday, 16 October 2008 [Archived]

Meeting Called to Order

Speaker: Ray Plzak, ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

Ray Plzak opened the second day of the ARIN Public Policy Meeting by thanking network connectivity sponsor CenterGate Research and the Los Nettos Regional Network. He announced that Martin Hannigan had been appointed to the NRO Number Council by the ARIN Board of Trustees in accordance with elections policy set by the ASO Memorandum of Understanding. Ray reviewed the rules of discussion to be followed throughout the meeting, and introduced Celeste Anderson, one of the meeting sponsors. At the beginning of the meeting, approximately 123 people were in attendance.

[ARIN offered the opportunity for remote participation throughout the meeting. Comments from remote participants are read aloud at the meeting and are integrated into the meeting report. There were approximately 36 individuals viewing or listening to the meeting webcast throughout the proceedings, and 35 registered remote participants.]

Statement from Sponsor

Speaker: Celeste Anderson, Los Nettos Regional Network

Transcript

Celeste Anderson welcomed ARIN to Los Angeles on behalf of the Los Nettos Regional Networks and CenterGate Research. She thanked Cogent and InterWorld for their help preparing and setting up the connectivity. She then offered a brief remembrance on Los Nettos founder, Jon Postel, and his contributions to the organization and the larger community.

2008-2: IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal (continued)

Moderator: John Curran, Chairman

Introduction: PDF

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

John Curran reopened the discussion of 2008-2. He restated the rule of conduct, and opened the microphones for comment.

Discussion of this policy proposal carried over from the previous day. For discussion details from the second day, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room to include those participating online. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

2008-6: Emergency Transfer Policy for IPv4 Addresses

Speaker: Bill Darte, Proposal Author

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Ray Plzak presented an introduction to the proposal.

Highlights included:

• Author: Bill Darte
• Advisory Council shepherds: Owen DeLong and Stacy Hughes
• Introduced on PPML on 18 August 08, designated as a formal policy on 26 August 2008. It was discussed at the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas.
• A similar proposal is being discussed in the APNIC and RIPE NCC regions.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation link above for details]

Bill Darte, as the proposal author, continued with the presentation of the proposal. Bill presented on the topic of current policy, the history and rationale of this proposal. He pointed out that this proposal is an alternative to proposal 2008-2.

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

RIR Update - LACNIC

Speaker: Roque Gagliano, LACNIC Staff

**Presentation:PDF

Transcript**

Roque Gagliano gave an update on growth and happenings in the LACNIC region. He sited the corporate vision statement as the model on which their efforts are evolving.

Highlights included:

• FRIDA program – 41 projects funded, 110 proposals from 18 countries
• IPv6 efforts include campaigning with a 1/1/11 IPv6 readiness date, creating metrics by country for education.
• The annual meeting was held in Brazil, and had 289 participants from 30 countries. An IPv4 depletion panel was featured. Multiple policies got consensus and have been ratified by the Board and implemented.
• The sub regional meeting in Curaçao had 70 participants from 17 countries.Next meeting will be in Panama City, Panama from 25-29 May 2009

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

RIR Update - APNIC

Speaker: Paul Wilson, APNIC Director General

**Presentation:PDF

Transcript**

Paul Wilson gave an update on the activities of the APNIC community and staff. Highlights:

• Updated resource allocation statistics for the APNIC region
• An increase in IPv4 requests has resulted in the implementation of an escalation procedure Beta of MyAPNIC version 2 has been released
• Research & Development: Resource Certification design, test and standards, Participated in DITL 2008, Test Traffic Measurement – collaborating with RIPE NCC
• Policy update: 3 policies implemented following APNIC25. Following the recent APNIC 26 meeting, several policy proposals were approved by the community and are currently in a final call for comments.

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

NRO Activities Report

Speaker: Paul Wilson, Chair of the NRO Executive Council

**Presentation: PDF

Transcript**

As chair of the NRO Executive Council, Paul Wilson provided an update on NRO activities.

Highlights:

• Explained the function of the NRO, and its relationship with ICANN
• Announced the officers for 2009: Chair, Adiel Akplogan; Secretary, Axel Pawlik; Treasurer, Raúl Echeberría
• Outlined current activities including participation in ICANN meetings, OECD, and the IGF
• Described current joint activities with the RIR Boards

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

IPv6 IAB/IETF Activities Report

Speaker: Marla Azinger

Presentation:PDF

Transcript

Marla Azinger presented an update on IAB/IETF activities, emphasizing that this is not an official IEFT report, and that there is no official IETF liaison to ARIN or any other RIR. She thanked Thomas Narten for putting together the slides for the presentation.

Highlights included:

• Routing and addressing –RFC 4984 published. Multiple documents are being worked on
• IPv6 Maintenance, IPv6 OPS, Softwire, DNS Extensions, and OPSEC working groups all have multiple documents undergoing work.
• IPv6/IPv4 Translation/NAT working group had an interim meeting in Montreal, and multiple joint working group meetings are planned for Minneapolis.
• Secure inter-domain routing working group has 9 active documents. Input is required or they will get dropped.
• New Working groups: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod), Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNAbis), Source Address Validation Improvements (savi)
• Next meeting will be held in Minneapolis 16-21 November.

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

2008-5: Dedicated IPv4 block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment

Speaker: Alain Durand, Proposal Author

Introduction:PDF

Presentation:PDF
Transcript

Ray Plzak presented an introduction to the proposal.

Highlights included:

• Author: Alain Durand
• Advisory Council shepherds: Owen DeLong and Matt Pounsett
• Introduced on PPML on 6 June 08, designated as a formal policy on 19 June 2008. It was discussed at the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas.
• LACNIC has adopted similar policy, and APNIC has a similar policy in last call.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation link above for details]

Alain Durand, as the author of the proposal, continued with the presentation. He provided a summary of the proposal and its rationale.

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll on a series of questions to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

2008-7: Whois Integrity Policy Proposal

Speaker: Heather Schiller

**Introduction: PDF

Presentation:PDF
Transcript**

Ray Plzak presented an introduction to the proposal. Highlights included:

• Author: Heather Schiller
• Advisory Council shepherds: Paul Andersen and Bill Darte
• Introduced on PPML on 18 August 08, designated as a formal policy on 26 August 2008. It was discussed at the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas.
• APNIC has adopted a similar policy. No other similar policy is under consideration in any other RIR region.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation link above for details]

Heather Schiller, as the proposal author, continued with the presentation. Heather presented on the topic of current policy, the history, and rationale of this proposal. She presented statistics on the last time many of the records were updated with ARIN, and the implication of outdated data in WHOIS.

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

2007-14: Resource Review Process

Speaker: Owen DeLong, Proposal Author

**Introduction: PDF

Presentation:PDF
Transcript**

Ray Plzak presented an introduction to the proposal. Highlights included:

• Authors: Owen DeLong and Stephen Sprunk
• Advisory Council shepherds: Robert Seastrom and Leo Bicknell
• Introduced on PPML on 1 May 2007, designated as a formal policy on 24 July 2007. It was discussed at ARIN XX, ARIN XXI, the May 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Kingston, Jamaica, and the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas. The proposal was last revised on 10 October 2008.
• This proposal is only being considered in the ARIN region.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation link above for details]

Owen DeLong, as one of the proposal authors, continued with the presentation. He provided a summary of the proposal and its rationale.

[Editorial note: A concern was raised that the late changes in the proposal did not allow for proper discussion on the ppml and that this change is not allowable. The author claimed that the change was strictly editorial and that no substantive change was made to the proposal’s intent or meaning. The Chair asked the room which version of the policy should be discussed – the version in the discussion guide, or the latest revision. Based on a poll of the room, the decision was made to discuss the printed version, dated August 14th. The Chair made note to pursue the necessary administrative changes to prevent this situation from occurring in the future.]

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

RIR Update - RIPE NCC

Speaker: Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC Managing Director

Presentation:PDF

Transcript

Axel Pawlik provided a presentation about recent activities and developments within RIPE NCC and its region.
Highlights included:

• Report on RIPE 57, held in Dubai, which had 320 attendees from 50 countries, and results of the General Meeting held in October
• RIPE Board elections to be held at RIPE 58, there are seven candidates for two open seats.
• The Board has been engaged in strategic planning, and identified areas requiring further attention: Outreach, Reporting, and Number Resource Lifecycle Management
• Planning to deploy a certification process in 2009, a limited test-run was held after RIPE 57
• Continued PR and Outreach campaigns on IPv6 Uptake and 4-byte ASNs as well as developing branding for Information Services
• Cooperation Task Force is continuing to strengthen communication with government groups, work with the OECD, and educate law enforcement agents
• Upcoming meetings: RIPE 58, Amsterdam, 4-8 May, 2008; RIPE 59, Lisbon, 5-9 October, 2009

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

NRO NC Report

Speaker: Jason Schiller, NRO Number Council Member for the ARIN Region

Presentation:PDF

Transcript

Jason Schiller gave a report on behalf of the NRO Number Council.

Highlights:

• Explained the function of the ASO Address Council, also know as the NRO Number Council
• New members include Martin Hannigan (ARIN region, reappointed), Naresh Ajwani (APNIC region, elected), and Francisco Obispo (LACNIC region, re-elected).
• Participated in the ICANN meeting in Paris, and will be participating in the upcoming ICANN Cairo

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Open Microphone

Moderator: John Curran, ARIN Chairman of the Board

Transcript

John Curran opened the microphone for comments from the floor. Topics of discussion included:

• Legacy resource holders and the Legacy RSA
• The existence of a transfer market for IPv4 and how or if ARIN should be involved in it
• The status of the revision of the Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Closing Announcements and Adjournment

Speaker: Ray Plzak, ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

Ray Plzak made closing announcements and again thanked CenterGate Research and the Los Nettos Regional Network for ARIN XXII network connectivity and Cyber Café support. He offered a reminder on the Members Meeting, which would take place the following day, and to which all attendees were invited. He reminded attendees to complete their surveys to be entered in the raffles. He invited attendees to stay and participate in the demo of the new ARIN Secure Web Login functionality. He concluded by thanking all of the meeting attendees and remote participants for being involved and hoped they would return for the Members Meeting tomorrow.

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