ARIN PPC at NANOG 66 Notes - 09 February 2016

Table of Contents

Opening and Announcements

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Transcript

John Curran opened the meeting and welcomed those in attendance. John began the Public Policy Consultation at NANOG 66 by making meeting-related announcements and introducing those at the head table. He reviewed the meeting rules, agenda and the Discussion Guide. At the beginning of the meeting, approximately 50 people were in attendance. John moderated the policy discussions during the event. [ARIN offered the opportunity for remote participation throughout the meeting. Comments from remote participants are read aloud at the meeting and are integrated into the meeting report. There were 15 registered remote participants.]

ARIN Update

Speaker: Leslie Nobile, ARIN Senior Director of Global Registry Knowledge
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Leslie Nobile provided an update from ARIN on:

  • IPv4 transfer requests
  • Assignments from the IPv4 block dedicated to facilitate IPv6 deployment (NRPM 4.10)
  • IPv6 adoption rate by ISP size

Discussion highlights:

  • Request to improve transfer reporting for those performing data analysis. It would also be helpful to standardize this reporting among the RIRs
  • Does a provider assignment of IPv6 meet the requirements for qualifying for IPv4 under the 4.10 policy?
  • Is there any prohibition on transferring IPv4 addresses assigned under the 4.10 policy?

 For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Update on Advisory Council Activities

Speaker: Dan Alexander, ARIN Advisory Council Chair
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Dan Alexander provided an update on Advisory Council activities. He reviewed the current docket of draft policies and proposals.

  • Role of the AC in the Policy Development Process
  • AC docket for the PPC
    • Two Recommended Draft Policies¬†
    • Two Draft Policies
  • Purpose of the Staff Policy and Experience Report
  • Other AC activities

There were no comments or questions from the floor at the conclusion of the presentation.

Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients)

Speaker: Chris Tacit, ARIN Advisory Council
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Background

  • Advisory Council shepherds: Cathy Aronson and Chris Tacit
  • Introduced on PPML in May 2015 (ARIN-prop-216)
  • This draft policy was previously discussed at the PPC at NANOG 64 and at ARIN 36

John Curran introduced Chris Tacit who presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

  • Rationale for the proposal
  • Overview of text
  • Overview of discussion on PPML
  • Considering adding a definition of "control" to the NRPM to clarify the language in this policy
  • Solicited feedback from the audience

John Curran opened the microphone for discussion.

Discussion highlights:

  • This proposal language is too complicated and moves away from the idea of simplifying policy
  • It is impossible to avoid a level of legalese if we are seeking to guard against flipping

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use

Speaker: Tina Morris, ARIN Advisory Council
Intro: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Background

  • Advisory Council shepherds: Tina Morris and David Huberman
  • Introduced on PPML in June 2015 (ARIN-prop-219)
  • This draft policy was discussed at ARIN 36
  • Staff and Legal assessment
  • This policy may require coding changes to support unicode character sets, which could extend the time needed to implement

John Curran introduced Tina Morris who presented the rationale for the proposal and solicited feedback.

  • This would clarify the status of ARIN-registered resources that are used outside the ARIN region
  • Community support was garnered at ARIN 36, and there has been no discussion since it was moved to recommended policy
  • Solicited feedback on this proposal

Aaron Hughes, ARIN Board of Trustees, moderated discussion.

Discussion highlights:

  • Though this policy was supported, why hasn't this moved to adoption?
  • How many of the criteria will need to be provided to staff for them to approve requests under this policy?
  • It should be clear how many of these requirements must be met rather than leaving it to staff discretion

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Straw poll of attendees and remote participants for/against the Recommended Draft Policy (submitted to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations):

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 50
  • In favor: 21
  • Against: 0

Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7: Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers

Speaker: Kevin Blumberg, ARIN Advisory Council
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Background

  • Advisory Council shepherds: Robert Seastrom and Milton Meuller
  • Introduced on PPML in June 2015 (ARIN-prop-221)
  • This draft policy was discussed at ARIN 36

John Curran introduced Kevin Blumberg who presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

  • Rationale for the proposal
  • Overview of text
  • Staff and Legal assessments
  • Request for community feedback

Kevin Blumberg moderated discussion.

Discussion highlights:

  • Anything that moves us toward removing needs-basis entirely is a step in the right direction
  • Is the intent of this policy to refer to resources in the ARIN region or does it include space outside the ARIN region?
  • Should this policy differentiate criteria for transfers inside the region and transfers between regions?
  • How does policy factor in the issue of leased space? Should there be policy to address that issue?

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11: Remove transfer language which only applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool

Speaker: Kevin Blumberg, Vice Chair, ARIN Advisory Council
Intro: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Background:

  • Advisory Council shepherds: Milton Mueller and Robert Seastrom
  • Introduced on PPML in September 2015 (ARIN-prop-225)
  • This draft policy was discussed at ARIN 36

John Curran introduced Kevin Blumberg who presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

  • Rationale for the proposal
  • Overview of text
  • Solicited feedback from the audience
  • Request to forgo discussion in favor of polling the room on level of support

Straw poll of attendees and remote participants for/against the Recommended Draft Policy (submitted to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations):

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 56
  • In favor: 23
  • Against: 0

ARIN Public Policy Consultations (PPCs)

Speaker: Dan Alexander, ARIN Advisory Council Chair
Transcript

Dan Alexander thanked everyone for their feedback and participation. He explained changes to the role and status of the PPC:

  • Stopped requesting PPCs at the October joint ARIN and NANOG meetings
  • Providing new kinds of reports and presentations to meet the needs of the audience

He requested feedback on these changes and ways the AC can further improve the PPC

Discussion highlights:

  • The improvement to the flow and programming of the PPC session was commended

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

Closing Announcements and Adjournment

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Transcript

John Curran thanked everyone for their participation and invited attendees to join us at ARIN 37 in Montego Bay, Jamaica in April and for ARIN 38 in Dallas, Texas in October. He encouraged folks to apply for the ARIN Meeting Fellowship.