Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council
20 June 2019



  • Tina Morris, Chair (TM)
  • Leif Sawyer, Vice Chair (LS)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Kat Hunter (KH)
  • Alyssa Moore (AM)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Kerrie Richards (KR)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)


  • Therese Simcox

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, Associate General Counsel
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Sean Hopkins (SH), Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), COO
  • John Sweeting, (JS) Sr. Director, Registration Services


  • Joe Provo

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:14 p.m. EDT. The presence of a quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. The Chair added a travel planning item to Any Other Business at the request of the COO.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by RS, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 16 May 2019, as written.”

The Chair called for any objections. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Status of AC Recommendation to the Board on Waitlist Policy Suspension

The President stated that the AC’s recommendation had been received by the Board. He stated that the Board had adopted the recommended policy change, and affirmed that the waitlist would be restarted under the new policy. The President noted that the language of the policy text needed to be amended by the Board due only part of a sentence being copied from existing policy text in the Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM).

5. Status of Policies for Board Ratification

The President stated that the following recommended draft policies were ratified during the Board’s teleconference, held earlier today.

  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-2: Clarification to ISP Initial Allocation.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-5: Disallow Third-Party Organization Record Creation.
  • ARIN-Edit-2019-1: Remove IPv4 Reference in NRPM Section 6.10.1.

The Chair thanked the President for the update.

Amy Potter joined at this time (4:19 p.m. EDT).

The Chair called for any questions on the President’s update. It was asked of the President what was the outcome of the status of the appeal of ARIN-Prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation. It was noted that this item was listed under Any Other Business.

The President replied that the Board has affirmed the AC’s determination that ARIN-Prop-266 is out of scope and, therefore, it should be removed from the AC’s docket.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2018-6: Clarify Reassignment Requirements in

AM stated that this been on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) for a while and the support shown has been in favor.

It was moved by AM, and seconded by AW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council moves ‘Draft Policy ARIN-2018-6: Clarify Reassignment Requirements in’ to Recommended Draft Policy status.”

The Chair called for discussion. AM stated there were clarifying statements that will be included into the text. She noted that a staff and legal review had been requested; however, staff did not find that a request had been made.

Due to this finding, per the Policy Development Process (PDP), the Chair stated that the motion was withdrawn, and that a staff and legal review will be requested.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4 Request Requirements

KH stated that the discussion on the PPML has been positive. She explained that she was awaiting the outcome of the AC’s recommendation on waitlist policy to be adopted by the Board before proceeding with any further action. She stated she would re-submit the draft policy to the PPML after the waitlist policy had been adopted or rejected; and, she would be asking the community if they still supported a 36-month timeframe for transfers given the outcome.

The Chair replied that there will be a small delay until the formal ARIN announcement on the Board’s decision is made, then KH can proceed with her suggested plan. KH agreed.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-2: Waiting List Block Size Restriction

AW asked how to proceed now that the Board has adopted the AC’s recommendation on waitlist policy. She suggested posting a note to the PPML stating the intention to abandon. The Chair replied that she preferred not to leave policies or proposals on the AC’s docket which are not going to have further work performed.

It was moved by AD, and seconded by OD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, acknowledging the ARIN Board’s adoption of the AC’s Recommendation on Waitlist Policy, believes this policy to be redundant and unneeded. Therefore, to simplify future work, it abandons ‘Draft Policy ARIN-2019-2: Waiting List Block Size Restriction’.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no further comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

9. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-3: Update 4.10 – IPv6 Deployment Block

AT stated that there has been no participation on the PPML. She stated she would like to request a staff and legal review. The Chair stated acknowledged the request.

10. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-Regional IPv6 Resource Transfers

DF stated that he has been looking for comments on whether this policy is needed but has received no feedback. The Chair acknowledged and stated it is in a holding pattern until feedback on the PPML is provided.

11. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of Abuse-Mailbox

OD stated it has been difficult to revise this policy, as the author continues to update the text. He noted that the author is delaying further policy work, but he was accepting of that fact.

12. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-6: Longer Hold Time Requirements for 4.1.8 Recipients.

RS stated that it is not appropriate to abandon this draft policy, as the 5-year hold time is fine, and can be lessened if the community finds it appropriate. He stated his intention is to keep the policy text going until the Board’s decision on waitlist policy is announced and, if appropriate, abandon it at that time.

OD asked if there was any reason to delay a staff and legal review. RS agreed a request for one can be made and believed it would be straightforward.

13. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List

AM stated her request for a staff and legal review has been made. She noted that on the PPML today, there were 7 against with 3 in favor. She believed it appropriate to abandon this draft policy.

It was moved by AM, and seconded by OD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council abandons ‘Draft Policy ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List’.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with 8 in favor (OD, DF, KH, AM, CT, AT, AW, CW), 4 against (AD, RS, LS, TM), and one abstention (AP) via roll call vote.

14. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-8: Clarification of Section 4.10 for Multiple Discrete Networks

OD stated there have been no changes and the policy is under discussion on the PPML. He stated that he will try to foster more discussion, and then request a staff and legal review.

AD asked if the AC should merge this policy with other similar polices to simplify things. OD agreed with his suggestion. The Chair stated that she would like a comparison of the policy texts before proceeding with merging any policies.

15. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions between NRPM 4.5 IPv6 Transition Space Requests and NRPM Unmet Needs Requests

KH stated that there has not been much discussion on the PPML, and she will re-post the text with additional questions.

16. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A

CW stated that there had been no discussion on the PPML until he posted again this week, and discussion has picked up recommending support if other changes were made to this policy. He stated that he has not yet integrated the comments into the policy text, and will await any further feedback. He will consider revising the text for the AC’s next meeting based upon feedback received.

17. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-11: M&A Regional Nexus Exclusion

RS stated that there has been one message of non-support on the PPML, and will attempt to foster more discussion.

CT noted that the policy needs more discussion generated on the PPML, and that he will work with JP on it.

AP stated that she had sent a post to the PPML and is awaiting community feedback.

20. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for Blocks

AD stated that with the Board adopting the AC’s Recommendation on Waitlist Policy, he will wait for the formal ARIN announcement of the Board’s decision. Once that has been announced, he will post a note to the PPML to see if the community wants to continue with or abandon this policy.

21. ARIN-Prop-275: Hijacking Authorization Not-Intended

CT stated that the shepherds for this policy had been working with the author to get as much clarity in the problem statement and policy proposal as possible. Some of the suggestions had been accepted by the author and others had not, but the shepherds believe the the problem statement and the policy proposal are both clear enough at this point for the proposal to be adopted as a draft policy.

It was moved by CT, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-275: Hijacking Authorization Not-Intended’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

Motion carried with all in favor via roll call vote.

22. Any Other Business

Status Update of ARIN-Prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

Previously discussed.

KR joined at this time (4:46 pm EDT), and she apologized for her delay.

Outstanding Expense Submissions

(Exhibit A)

The Chair reminded AP to send in her expenses. She stated she would do so.

Travel Planning

The COO stated that the responsibility of the AC’s travel support within ARIN will be shifted to another person, and that it will not impact the AC’s travel planning or support.

Request Formal Numbering of the AC’s Recommendation on Waitlist Policy

AD requested this item be formally numbered using the standard policy numbering methodology. He suggested this so that it can be used to track the announcement of the change to waitlist policy, and the policy’s insertion into the NRPM when it happens. There was consensus within the AC, and the Chair agreed with AD’s suggestion. The President stated that staff would number the recommendation.

23. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:50 p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, seconded by RS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.