Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 20 September 2018


Advisory Council Attendees:

  • Tina Morris, Chair (TM)
  • Leif Sawyer, Vice Chair (LS)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Alyssa Moore (AM)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Joe Provo (JP)
  • Kerrie Richards (KR)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • John Springer (JS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)


  • Therese Simcox

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Assoc. General Counsel
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Nate Davis, COO (ND)
  • Sean Hopkins (SHo), Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), CIO

ARIN General Counsel

  • Stephen Ryan, Esq.

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:03 pm EST. The presence of a quorum was noted with the Chair acknowledging that DF would be delayed.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda and called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by CW, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 16 August 2018, as written."

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment

CT stated that he, DF, and OD crafted language to pose at ARIN 42 to large organizations that automate SWIP processes. This was done for the purpose of getting the requested information to the Board for their reconsideration of adopting the policy. CT stated that he had posted the language to the AC and there were no questions; therefore, he intends on posting the language to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML). CT further stated that he, DF, and other AC members who want to participate, would be conducting meetings with NANOG representatives at NANOG 74 for the AC to listen to community views. He stated he will then be presenting the language at ARIN 42.

The Chair asked CT if meetings have been scheduled with the top 10 and top 20 organizations provided to the AC by ARIN staff. CT stated that no meetings have yet been scheduled as a list of questions needed to be put together to ask the organizations.

The Chair volunteered to help with the effort at ARIN 42. CT thanked her and stated that he is looking for volunteers. He asked the AC if there were any other volunteers, he will work out a schedule. The Chair thanked CT.

5. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-Regional ASN Transfers

AW stated that she will present this policy at ARIN 42, and noted that there have been no comments on the PPML in the last month. She stated that she hopes to move this policy to last call after the AC's October meeting.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2018-2: Clarification to ISP Initial Allocation and Permit Renumbering

RS stated that this policy was 'run up the flagpole' and received favorable comment. There were four in favor, and none against. On the basis of this data, albeit thin, he stated he is in favor of moving the policy to recommended draft status. KR stated that when it goes to recommended draft, she believed it will attract more folks to pay attention to it. Although four in favor is a weak consensus, she did expect more folks to be in favor of this policy.

The Chair asked who will be present the policy at ARIN 42. KR confirmed that she would be the presenter.

7. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments

JP stated that there have been no additional comments on PPML. He stated that the presentation is ready for presenting at ARIN 42. JP stated there was one negative critique on the draft, and that he followed up with that person this week. He noted more discussion will take place at ARIN 42.

David Farmer joined at this time (4:13 p.m. EDT).

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

CW noted that new language was posted to the PPML based on feedback received, and there have been no comments. He stated he will be presenting the policy at ARIN 42.

It was moved by CW, and seconded by DF, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council recommends 'Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments' for adoption."

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call vote.

9. ARIN-Prop-255: NRPM Cleanup

CT stated that the policy language was finalized and the mark-up had been distributed.

It was moved by CT, and seconded by JS, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council accepts 'ARIN-Prop-255: NRPM Cleanup' as an editorial change."

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call vote.

10. ARIN-Prop-256: Modify 8.3 and 8.4 for Clarity

AT stated that she had spoken to the author and it was their sense that this policy it should be an editorial change.

It was moved by AT, and seconded by OD, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council accepts 'ARIN-Prop-256: Modify 8.3 and 8.4 for Clarity' as an editorial change."

The Chair called for comments. AT stated that there was a suggestion from an AC member for edits to be made that would not be substantive. She asked if that AC member wanted to make the edits or not. There were no comments. The Chair noted edits could be made at a later time if needed.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call vote.

11. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.

AC Speakers at ARIN 42

The Chair reminded the speakers that their final slides are due October 3rd.

Table Topics Lunch at ARIN 42

The Chair noted that there is one lunch at which to hold table topics sessions. There are currently two table topics: Recommended Draft Policy 2017-12; and, improving policy discussion and participation.  The Chair stated if there were any additional topics to please let her know.

Policy 'Break-out' Room

The Chair stated there is a 'break-out' room for the 2017-12 presentation and question session, and that it was available for any side meetings or discussions. She noted it was available during NANOG 74 and ARIN 42. SH stated that he would be available to coordinate and facilitate any meetings.

Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) Repository Project

The Chair asked SH to give an overview of this recently completed project. SH stated that a public, read-only Git repository had been created and hosted on Bitbucket, containing a single Markdown file with commit history dating back to the first iteration of the NRPM. He further stated that one can read the ARIN announce list, PPML, and the NRPM change log webpage for links to the repository, and that it would be updated going forward with future iterations of the NRPM.

The Chair thanked him. OD also thanked SH for his efforts on the project and hoped the AC would take full advantage of it. He noted that one can compare two versions of the NRPM easily, see differences and how things have changed and evolved. He stated it is a fantastic resource and that he appreciates all of the effort that went into it.

AC Travel to RIR Meetings

KR stated that she and AD will soon be traveling to Argentina for to attend LACNIC 30 which takes place prior to the NANOG and ARIN meetings in Vancouver. The Chair asked for updates from them when they are at the LACNIC meeting.

12. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:30 pm EDT. OD moved to adjourn, seconded by RS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.