Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Friday, 27 January 2017
Seattle, WA


Advisory Council Attendees

  • Dan Alexander, Chair (DA)
  • Tina Morris, Vice Chair (TM)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • David Huberman (DH)
  • Alyssa Moore (AM)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Joe Provo (JP)
  • Leif Sawyer (LS)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • John Springer (JS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)


  • Sean Hopkins

ARIN Staff

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Assoc. General Counsel
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Nate Davis (ND), COO
  • Sean Hopkins, (SH) Policy Analyst
  • John Sweeting (JSw), Senior Dir., Registration Services

Observers (2017 AC members-elect)

  • Paul Anderesen, ARIN Board Chair
  • Aaron Hughes, ARIN Board Trustee
  • Merike Kaeo, ARIN Board Trustee


  • Stephen M. Ryan, Esq.

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:08 p.m. PST. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair welcomed the AC to their first meeting of the year and welcomed the new members to the Council.

The Chair asked the President for clarification regarding the need for roll call for in-person meetings. The President noted that for the purpose of the record it was good practice to utilize a roll call vote.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council, and called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by AD, and seconded by LS, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 15 December 2016, as written."

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Ratified Policies

As an informational update, the Chair stated that the ARIN Board of Trustees adopted the following policies at their meeting on December 19, 2016

  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients).
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-1: Reserved Pool Transfer Policy.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-2: Change Timeframes for IPv4 Requests to 24   Months.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-4: Transfers for New Entrants.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-5: Post-IPv4-Free-Pool-Depletion Transfer Policy.
  • Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-3: Alternative Simplified Criteria for Justifying Small IPv4 Transfers

The Chair called for comments. DH stated that he and OD had modified the text for compatibility with the incoming February implementation of Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM), and closed a loophole that was brought up in Dallas where organizations could work around policy language by repeating request submissions. He requested that the Chair solicit a staff and legal review. The Chair requested that SH initiate the review.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-7: Integration of Community Networks into Existing ISP Policy

It was moved by OD, and seconded by DF, that:  

"The ARIN Advisory Council abandons Draft Policy ARIN-2016-7: Integration of Community Networks into Existing ISP Policy."

The Chair called for discussion. OD stated that no form of community support existed. He noted that the author advocated for the policy, but had yet to be supported. He stated that community network operators were happy with how the current policy affects them.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call vote.

OD stated that he would write a statement to accompany the abandonment for staff. The Chair requested that OD send a draft statement to the Council's mailing list. OD agreed to do so.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-8: Removal of Indirect POC Validation Requirement

CT stated that there had been discussion on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) with some in opposition of this draft policy, and others raising interesting issues. He stated that some folks had asked that the AC address the issue of Point of Contact (POC) validation through a sample audit of POC information, while others recommended a forward-looking approach of validating them as they were created. He stated that still others asked if a broader examination of indirect records and their usage was necessary.

CT stated that the discussion would continue and that he would seek more community input at the ARIN 39 Public Policy Meeting in New Orleans, in April.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-9: Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers

JS stated that the revisions to this draft policy's text removing mention of the word "corporate" have been made, and he requested that the Chair solicit a staff and legal review in order for this draft policy to be considered for recommendation to recommended draft policy status at the AC's next meeting in February. The Chair requested that SH initiate a Staff and Legal Review.

JS stated that he would post the updated text to the PPML.

9. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business. DH asked if he should post the recently updated text for Draft Policy ARIN-2016-3 to the PPML. The Chair stated that he should, and noted that DH should also alert staff so that the ARIN website be updated.

DF asked if the Council had any plans to request any Public Policy Consultation (PPC) meetings in 2017. The Chair noted that there were no current plans to hold a PPC in February, but the Council could discuss the possibility for a June PPC during either their February or March teleconferences.

CW noted that the call for presentations at NANOG for June 2017 would close before the AC's meeting in April, as NANOG's call for presentations typically ended 3-4 weeks after opening. He stated that he is a member of the NANOG Program Committee (NANOG PC), and that the NANOG PC be alerted to the AC's intentions as soon as possible - if the AC were considering holding a June PPC. The Chair asked if the current method of outreach the Council has performed to the NANOG PC ahead of a planned PPC has been reasonable. CW stated that there have been no known issues, but the AC should let the NANOG PC know as soon as they could if they plan to request a PPC.

10. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 3:23 p.m. PST. JS moved to adjourn, seconded by CT. The meeting was adjourned with no objections.