Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 16 June 2016


Advisory Council Attendees:

  • Dan Alexander, Chair (DA)
  • Cathy Aronson (CA)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • David Huberman (DH)
  • Scott Leibrand (SL)
  • Tina Morris (TM)
  • Milton Mueller (MM)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • John Springer (JS)


  • Therese Colosi

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Assoc. General Counsel
  • Nate Davis (ND), COO
  • Susan Hamlin (SH), Dir. Communications & Member Services
  • Sean Hopkins (SHo), Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), CIO & Acting Director, Registration Services

ARIN General Counsel

  • Stephen M. Ryan, Esq.


  • John Curran, Kevin Blumberg, Leslie Nobile, Leif Sawyer, Chris Tacit

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:06 p.m. EDT. The presence of a quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council, and called for any comments.  The Chair stated that the timeframe for ARIN 38 would be discussed under Any Other Business. There were no further comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by JS, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 19 May 2016, as written."

The Chair called for discussion.  There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Actions of the ARIN Board of Trustees

  • Provided as an informational item. At their meeting on 20 May 2016, the ARIN Board of Trustees ratified the following policy: ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy.
  • The ARIN Board also adopted the following, at same meeting: Update "Return" Language for Section 8.2 M&A Transfers. (In the ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual – NRPM)

5. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients)

CA stated that the text would be posted to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) once more to solicit further comments. She noted that the staff and legal assessment had been conducted.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7: Simplified Requirements for Demonstrated Need for IPv4 Transfers

RS stated that he had recently sent a revision to the PPML incorporating changes from feedback at ARIN 37 into the policy statement. He noted the change referred to it being an 'or' situation – it's the applicant's option. He believed the change to be editorial in nature and believed it should not require additional process. He stated he was looking for community feedback and specifically requested another staff and legal assessment on the modification.  ARIN staff acknowledged RS's request.  SL stated that he approved of the revision and agreed with RS believing it to be an editorial revision.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-1: Reserved Pool Transfer Policy

It was moved by AP, and seconded by AD, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council recommends 'Draft Policy ARIN-2016-1: Reserved Pool Transfer Policy' for adoption."

The Chair called for discussion.  AD stated that he did not see any changes being suggested  and that it was a simple policy. The staff and legal assessment posed no issues.

The motion carried with all in favor (12) via roll call vote.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-2: Change Timeframes for All IPv4 Requests to 24 Months

TM stated there had been no progress but would have text posted to the PPML by next week. No further update at this time.  The Chair asked if there was an expectation on feedback. SL stated he believed it was straight forward and just wanted to give the community one more opportunity to comment.

9. Draft Policy ARIN-2016-3: Alternative Simplified Criteria for Justifying Small IPv4 Transfers

DH stated that author Jason Schiller had posted discussion items to the PPML, however there had been no responses. DH stated he would post a few basic questions to the PPML to try to foster discussion on the fundamental idea.

10. ARIN-Prop-229: Transfers for New Entrants

JS noted that the problem statement is clear and that the proposal is in scope in accordance to the criterion set forth in the Policy Development Process.

It was moved by JS, and seconded by SL, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ARIN-Prop-229 entitled, 'Transfers for New Entrants' as a Draft Policy."

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

TM left the teleconference at this time (4:21 p.m. EDT).

The motion carried with all in favor (11) via roll call vote.

11. ARIN-Prop-230: Post-IPv4-Free-Pool-Depletion Transfer Policy

The Chair stated that KB, who was currently at the AFRINIC meeting, expressed that this proposal was clear and in scope.

It was moved by DA, and seconded by DF, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ARIN-Prop-230 entitled, 'Post-IPv4-Free-Pool-Depletion Transfer Policy' as a Draft Policy."

The Chair called for any comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor (11) via roll call vote.

The Chair noted a new proposal had been received very recently, and that it would be discussed on the AC's next agenda at their July teleconference.

12. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.

Length of ARIN 38 General Session.

The Chair stated that staff had requested guidance with regard to how long to reserve the ARIN 38 meeting room. Currently ARIN stands with one Recommended Draft Policy, four Draft Policies, and two proposals.

The Chair asked the AC to think about if a whole day on Thursday and a half-day on Friday would be enough time for discussion, and suggested they post their comments AC's mailing list.

JS asked if the half-day was for the Member's Meeting or for policy discussion. SH stated that at ARIN 36 in Montreal, there was a full day on Thursday (9:00 a.m to 5:00 p.m.); and, a half-day on Friday (9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.). The Member's Meeting was held after the lunch break on Friday and ran from 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. SH noted that the room for ARIN 38, in Dallas, would be available until 5:00 p.m. on Friday. 

CA stated that she thought it was a very good idea to use the same schedule for ARIN 38.

TM re-joined the teleconference at this time (4:26 p.m. EDT).

DH believed that the AC should use the extra time on Friday for policy discussion. DF stated there was confusion in Montreal as to when the Member's Meeting would be held, and; he requested that staff make it very clear that there would be a session on Friday. SH agreed and stated that staff would do so.

SH noted that ARIN 38 registration would open on Monday, June 27. The AC's comments would be needed one week prior. The Chair stated that he would send a recommendation to staff on Monday, next week; and asked for the AC's to provide their feedback before Monday. SH thanked them for their recommendations.

JS asked when the AC's face-to-face meeting would take place. SH stated it would begin after the Members Meeting has ended.

The Chair called for any other business. There were no comments.

13. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:29 p.m. EDT. JS moved to adjourn, seconded by RS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.