Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 15 August 2013


Advisory Council Attendees:

  • Dan Alexander, Vice Chair (DA)
  • Cathy Aronson (CA)
  • Kevin Blumberg (KB)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Chris Grundemann (CG)
  • Scott Leibrand (SL)
  • Milton Mueller (MM)
  • Bill Sandiford (BS)
  • Heather Schiller (HS)
  • John Springer (JSp)

Minute Taker:

  • Thérèse Colosi

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Assoc. General Counsel

  • Einar Bohlin (EB), Sr. Policy Analyst
  • John Curran, President & CEO

  • Leslie Nobile, (LN) Dir., Registration Services

ARIN General Counsel:

  • Steve Ryan, Esq.


  • Stacy Hughes, John Sweeting

1. Welcome

The Vice Chair called the meeting to order at 4:08 pm. EDT. The presence of quorum was noted. The Vice Chair acknowledged that the Chair had sent regrets for this meeting.

2. Agenda Review

The Vice Chair reviewed the agenda and asked for comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by RS, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 18 July 2013, as written."

The Vice Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Review of Timeline for ARIN 32 Public Policy Meeting

EB reminded the AC that text was needed by 30 August to be ready to promote Drafts to Recommended Drafts during the AC's September teleconference.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles

CG stated that new text was sent this week to Public Policy Mailing List (PPML), and that staff and legal review had been requested. Discussion will take place on the AC's September teleconference.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2013-5: LIR/ISP and End-user Definitions

KB stated that he had sent an email to the PPML this morning, and has already received responses. He noted that it had a small, narrow focus and he was happy with the text. The revised text will be sent to staff in the next few days, with a request for staff and legal review, and that it would go to the ARIN 32 meeting for discussion.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-Region Requestors

DF stated that there had been a number of emails on this topic. He believed that the AC was amenable to sending out two text options. It was the sense of the AC that both options be made available. DF stated that he would request staff and legal review by the end of August. He would have a complete set of policy text ready for the AC to review shortly. 

8. ARIN-Prop-190: Merge IPv4 ISP and End-User Requirements

It was moved by SL, and seconded by BD, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council accepts 'ARIN-Prop-190: Merge IPv4 ISP and End-User Requirements' as a Draft Policy."

The Vice Chair called for discussion. SL stated that the problem statement was clear, and that he believed it should be on the AC's docket. BD agreed.

The motion carried with 12 in favor, and 1 abstention (DA) via roll call vote. Dan stated that, as the author, he abstained from the vote.

9. Improve Communications Group (IC) Report

JSp stated that the text delineations regarding the Vice Chair and the Chair were coming along, and that he would have drafts for the AC to review before their next call.

10. Any Other Business

The Vice Chair called for any other business.  DF asked if there were any updates on the Fee Schedule Review Panel. The President stated selection of individuals for the Panel had been completed, and that a kick-off call would take place within the next two weeks. The Fee Structure Review Panel will summarize the merits of the various proposals that showed up on the PPML. DF asked if the individuals would be made public. The President stated that they would be made public in the report, and that it would be discussed at their meeting

EB stated that the Chair had posted that all of the draft policies should be reviewed during the Tuesday morning of the ARIN Public Policy Consultation (PPC) session during the NANOG meeting. Should there be a motion to acknowledge this? The President stated that no motion is needed, but the AC, for avoidance of doubt, should agree to cover all of the policies and decide how much time each one needs. This needs to be determined by the AC. The Vice Chair suggested the AC discuss this on their list.

BD agreed it should be discussed. He noted that the presentations would be short, and that time would be dependent upon the debate that comes from the presentation. The President stated that if someone believes they are going to have a longer session, it would be good to know how many of those there would be for scheduling purposes.

11. Adjournment

The Vice Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:42 p.m. EDT. JSp moved to adjourn, seconded by BD. The motion carried with no objections.