Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 20 September 2012


Advisory Council Attendees:

  • John Sweeting, Chair
  • Scott Leibrand, Vice Chair (SL)
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Cathy Aronson (CA)
  • Kevin Blumberg (KB)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Chris Grundemann (CG)
  • Marty Hannigan (MH)
  • Stacy Hughes (SH)
  • Chris Morrow (CM)
  • Bill Sandiford (BS)
  • Heather Schiller (HS)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)

Minute Taker

  • Therese Colosi

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Staff Attorney
  • Einar Bohlin, Sr. Policy Analyst (EB)
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Nate Davis, COO

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:08 p.m. EDT. The presence of quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by SH, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 16 August 2012, as written."

The Chair called for discussion.  There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

BD, BS and DF joined at this time (4:10 pm EDT).

4. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement

CA stated that HS posted updated text to which ARIN staff had responded. Staff was awaiting HS's remarks. As HS was not currently on the teleconference, CA stated she would follow up with HS.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multi-Homers

CA stated that this was ready for ARIN XXX, and that she will be presenting a slide deck.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size

BS stated that this was ready for ARIN XXX, and that either he or the author (MH) will be presenting it at ARIN XXX.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable

KB stated he had posted a draft text to the AC's list with positive overall feedback. It is 90% ready with only one section that needed further clarifying revisions with regard to assignment sizes. He stated he would post it to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) as is for community feedback. DF supported this. KB stated he would present it at ARIN XXX.  The Chair reminded the AC of deadlines to submit the final text to ARIN staff.

HS joined at this time (4:20 p.m. EDT). 

The Chair asked HS if she believed Draft Policy ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement was ready to be posted. She stated she was fine with ARIN staff's comments and posting the draft policy.  She confirmed that she would be presenting it at ARIN XXX.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-8: Aligning 8.2 and 8.3 Transfer Policy

CG stated that it was ready for ARIN XXX, and that it had been posted to PPML and the AC Wiki. He confirmed he would be presenting it at ARIN XXX.

9. ARIN-Prop-180: ISP Private Reassignment

MH stated that there had been no changes or updates, and that it was ready for ARIN XXX. The Chair asked who would be presenting this proposal at ARIN XXX. MH replied that he would coordinate with the author and let the AC know.

10. ARIN-Prop-181: Penalize IPv4 Bad Actors

It was moved by SL, and seconded by CA, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposal entitled 'Penalize IPv4 Bad Actors', abandons it. The Council requests that the President advise the community of the availability of the Petition Process."

The Chair called for discussion. SL stated that he believed, personally, it was not technically sound or useful nor had it gained any support on the PPML. DF stated he agreed, and believed it was a bad idea to penalize people in a policy, as it was not the AC's job to do so. CA agreed with both SL and DF.

The motion carried with one abstention (OD) via roll call.

The Chair requested SL craft the justification for abandonment by 24 September. SL agreed.

11. Improve Communications Group (IC) Report

(IC members: KB, BD, OD, CG)
KB stated that the follow-up from the last meeting showed that there was interest, but little effort. He believed the matter should be discussed at ARIN XXX. He acknowledged that the AC's performance in the past year has improved the PPML as well as possible, noting less 'bickering' on the PPML posts. He stated that there had been suggestions, but not much implementation. BD agreed.

CG stated that he took issue in that statement, as the IC itself has been inactive in past several months. The IC stopped meeting, as the forum was not there. Continual improvement of communication in the policy process is important.  KB clarified that he had requested feedback and received little response. KB suggested in person meetings and teleconferences in lieu of email communication within the IC.

The Chair suggested Table Top discussions during ARIN XXX. Staff stated the topic had a 10-minute slot during the policy discussions at the upcoming ARIN XXX meeting.

12. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.  The Chair reminded the AC to wrap up their travel plans for ARIN XXX if they had not done so, and he reminded them of the deadlines for submitting text revisions to staff for the presentations.

The President stated that remote participants will want time to see what policy text they are commenting on in advance and, depending on the ARIN XXX Agenda, participants may also need to see that to finalize their schedules for how long they stay or attend. He stated it was important to lock in the text for this purpose.

The Chair thanked KB stating that he appreciated his active position in the AC during recent events. KB thanked everyone for their support.

BD stated that he attended the recent ARIN on the Road event held in Louisville, KY. He noted that it had a very good turnout and that the venue was great. The ARIN team did a great job of interacting with participants. He stated that it was a quality event to which he commended ARIN for producing. He noted that many participants gave very favorable feedback.

The President stated that he appreciated BD's feedback; and, the ARIN On the Road events would continue, in order to provide information to those that could not attend ARIN's Public Policy Meetings.

DF stated that he had attended the ARIN on the Road event two days later in Minneapolis, MN, and that it went splendidly as well. He noted that there was much community interest in seeing them continue.

13. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:38 p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, seconded by CA. The meeting adjourned with no objections.