Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 17 July 2008



  • Leo Bicknell (LB), Chair   
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Paul Andersen (PA)
  • Marla Azinger (MA), Vice Chair
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Stacy Hughes (SH)
  • Scott Leibrand (SL)
  • Matt Pounsett (MP)
  • Lea Roberts (LR)
  • Robert Seastrom (RS)
  • Heather Schiller (HS)
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Therese Colosi, Scribe
  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Nate Davis, COO
  • Leslie Nobile, Director, Registration Services
  • Ray Plzak (RP), President & CEO

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen M. Ryan


  • Cathy Aronson, Alec Peterson

1. Welcome

Welcome. The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:04 p.m. EDT. The presence of quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

Agenda Bashing.  The Chair called for comments. Due to restraints in his schedule, RS requested if Counsel could provide any discussion so that he would not miss the discussion. 21 July to 23 of august for AC elections reminder.

3. Approval of the Minutes

SL moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of June 19, 2008, as written."

This was seconded by OD. The Chair called for discussion.

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Policy Proposal 2007-21

PIv6 for Legacy Holders with RSA and Efficient Use. The ARIN Board ratified this proposal during their meeting on June 20, 2008.

5.  Policy Proposal 2007-23

End Policy for IANA IPv4 Allocations to RIRs. The ARIN Board ratified this proposal during their meeting on June 20, 2008.

6.  Policy Proposal 2008-1

SWIP Support for Smaller than /29 Assignments. The ARIN Board ratified this proposal during their meeting on June 20, 2008.

7. Policy Proposal 2007-17

Legacy Outreach and Partial Reclamation. During the ARIN Board's meeting on July 8, 2008, the Board reviewed the language noting the author, Owen DeLong, had written a policy with good intent, but felt the language was too loose. The Board remanded the policy to the AC for further consideration.

SL moved to amend the proposal as follows:

"The ARIN Advisory Councils amends Policy Proposal 2007-17: Legacy Outreach and Partial Reclamation, by replacing the sentence: 'ARIN should reject any transaction which staff judges is not in the interests of the community.' with:

'Transactions should only be accepted under this policy if they are in the interests of the community (e.g. they improve aggregation or result in a net reclamation of space).' The ARIN Advisory Council, based on comments from stakeholders expressed either at the ARIN XXI Public Policy meeting or on the ARIN public policy mailing list, having reviewed the comments collected during the Last Call period, and noting that the Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process has been followed through an extended Last Call process, accepts this as a minor change which does not significantly alter the meaning of the proposal; and, recommends that the ARIN Board of Trustees adopt Policy Proposal 2007-17: Legacy Outreach and Partial Reclamation, as amended."

This was seconded by LR. The Chair called for discussion. OD stated that one board member personally stated this addressed the concern. LR stated she supported motion and also felt new wording addresses the concern.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call.

8.  Policy Proposal 2007-14

Resource Review Process.  RS, LB Author OD stated he'd have something for the next meeting.

BD joined the call at this time (4:14 p.m. EDT).

9. Policy Proposal 2008-2

IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal. Counsel provided an attorney-client privileged brief to the AC. The AC had spent the week discussing this policy on their list. After Counsel's brief and further discussion among the AC, but reaching no clear solution, the Chair stated the AC would continue working on and discussing this proposal on their list. All agreed.

RS left the call at this time. (4:43 pm. EDT).

The Chair asked the AC to consider if they felt any additional time was needed to work on this in the form of teleconferences or workshops between now and the ARIN meeting in October. He stated that he want input on whether they needed more time on this.

10. Policy Proposal 2008-3

Community Networks IPv6 Allocation. LR stated that she corresponded with the author who told her he has a group assembled to work on this proposal, and they will have it ready for fall meeting. He would ask the team to send her the work in progress.

11. Policy Proposal 2008-4

Minimum Allocation in the Caribbean Region.  HS stated there was no update at this time.

12. Policy Proposal 2008-5

Dedicated IPv4 block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment.  MP stated there had been limited discussion. He said that Tom Vest stated it may have an impact on the use of the transfer policy and may be worthwhile to look at both policies in tandem.  OD stated this policy proposal was ready for ARIN XXII.

13. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.  SL asked which AC members were attending the ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting. The Chair stated it would be announced by the middle to end of next week.

14. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 5:18 p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, and this was seconded by BD. The motion carried unanimously.