Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 20 March 2008



  • Leo Bicknell (LB), Chair   
  • Marla Azinger (MA), Vice Chair     
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Paul Andersen (PA)            
  • Cathy Aronson (CA)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)       
  • Scott Leibrand (SL)
  • Alec Peterson (AP)
  • Matt Pounsett (MP)         
  • Lea Roberts (LR) 
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Cathy Clements, Principal Resource Analyst
  • Therese Colosi, Scribe
  • Nate Davis, COO
  • Ray Plzak (RP), President & CEO

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen M. Ryan


  • Stacy Taylor


  • Bill Darte, Heather Schiller, Rob Seastrom

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:04 p.m. EDT. The presence of quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Chair called for any comments. The Chair added APNIC trip report under Item 16., Any Other Business.

3. Approval of the Minutes

SL moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of February 21, 2008 as written."

This was seconded by MP. The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with no objections.

4.  Policy Proposal 2007-22: Expand Timeframe of Additional Requests

The President stated that the ARIN Board ratified this proposal at their meeting on March 10, 2008. Prior to the upcoming ARIN meeting in Denver, this proposal will be implemented and published with the new version of ARIN's Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM).

5.  Policy Proposal: 2007-14: Resource Review Process

The Chair stated that OD will be presenting this proposal at the upcoming ARIN meeting in Denver.

6. Policy Proposal: 2007-16: IPv4 Soft Landing

The Chair stated that this proposal has been formally withdrawn by the author.

7.  Proposal:2007-17: Legacy Outreach and Partial Reclamation

LR stated that the author will be present at the ARIN meeting in Denver, and a revision was posted to the PPML but there had been no comments. Author, OD, stated he too had not seen any comments.

8. Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for Legacy Holders with RSA and Efficient Use

SW stated this proposal was revised and was submitted in accordance with the deadline; and, that it would be presented in Denver at the ARIN Meeting. SL, author, stated he would be presenting the proposal.

9.  Policy Proposal: 2007-23: End Policy for IANA IPv4 Allocations to RIRs

DA stated that he spoke with the presenter(s) who may not attend the ARIN meeting in Denver. DA volunteered to present this proposal if need be. He noted that this proposal was presented at the recent APNIC meeting and no consensus had been reached.

10. Policy Proposal: 2007-27: Cooperative Distribution of the End of the IPv4 Free Pool

The Chair stated that the author will present this proposal at the ARIN meeting in Denver. PA noted that this proposal was abandoned in the APNIC region.

11. Policy Proposal: 2008-1: SWIP Support for Smaller Than /29

OD stated that BD is preparing a presentation, as the author will not be at the ARIN meeting in Denver.

12. Policy Proposal: 2008-2: IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal

The Chair stated that the presentation for this policy proposal needs to be prepared. SL stated that he felt someone neutral should present it. MP felt he could present it, however, his time constraints were limited, and he could not contribute to authoring. The Chair stated MP was the only volunteer to present this policy proposal, and he would need editing assistance.

SL stated he could provide assistance in editing for the pro-side of this proposal. SW volunteered to help pull it together and work on background portion.

Discussion ensued including legal proponents of the proposal. Counsel stated both pro and con editors need to consult with Counsel. Counsel stated he had performed a legal review of the proposal.

MA joined at this time (4:26 p.m.).

The Chair stated he would post the volunteers on this proposal to the AC's list, and they should begin working on this presentation. Counsel stated he was available to assist as well. The Chair stated he would like to see a draft by April 1st circulated to the AC.  All agreed.

13. Policy Proposal 2008-3: Community Networks IPv6 Allocation

LR stated that a revision was submitted by the deadline, mostly due to ARIN staff (EB) and thanked EB for his assistance. LR stated the author is planning on presenting this at the ARIN meeting; and, volunteered to present it if, for some reason, the author could not.

At this point, Counsel requested further discussion of Item 5. Policy Proposal: 2007-14: Resource Review Process. There were no objections. Counsel stated the policy has many legal issues and he had redlined versions to submit to the AC. The President stated that ARIN did have Counsel's redlined version; and, OD, as the author, would be receiving the document from ARIN staff immediately.

14. AC Denver Workshop

The Chair reviewed the AC's preliminary agenda for their workshop.

15. IETF Trip Report

MA stated that she had attended the recent IETF in Philadelphia, PA; and, provided a brief report to the AC.

16. Any Other Business

APNIC Trip Report. PA stated he would send a written report to the AC on their list; but gave a brief rundown of the APNIC meeting held in Taipei recently, which he had attended.

ARIN Legal Matters. Counsel provided a privileged attorney/client brief to the AC.

17. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 5:24 p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, and this was seconded by MA. The motion carried unanimously.