Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 21 September 2006



  • Alec Peterson (AP), Vice Chair
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Paul Andersen (PA)
  • Cathy Aronson (CA)
  • Marla Azinger (MA)
  • Leo Bicknell (LB)
  • Mark Kosters (MK)
  • Matt Pounsett (MP)
  • Lea Roberts (LR)
  • Stacy Taylor (ST)
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Therese Colosi, Recording Secretary
  • Nate Davis (ND), Director of Operations
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), Director of External Operations
  • Ray Plzak (RP), President & CEO

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen M. Ryan


  • Bill Darte
  • Ron da Silva


  • Alex Rubenstein
  • Robert Seastrom

1. Welcome

The Vice Chair called the meeting to order at 4:06 p.m. EDT.  The presence of a quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Vice Chair called for any comments.  RP requested Counsel provide an update to the AC and the Vice Chair added this under Any Other Business.

3. Approval of the Minutes

ST moved that:

    "The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of August 17, 2006 as written."

This was seconded by MK.  The motion carried unanimously.

4. Policy Proposal 2006-1: Residential Customer Privacy

MA stated that the author is forwarding the proposal to ARIN staff. RP added that this proposal is on the agenda for the upcoming ARIN meeting in St. Louis. He stated an announcement will be posted on September 22, 2006 indicating the proposals that will be discussed at the meeting and that the author was unwilling to make changes to this proposal per community consensus.

5. Policy Proposal 2006-2: Micro-Allocations for Internal Infrastructure

ST stated there had been discussion on the PPML, but that it was bogged down on details of the issue.  She stated she needs to steer further discussions in the direction of whether or not there is support for this proposal.

6. Policy Proposal 2006-3: Capturing Originations in Templates

Capturing Originations in Templates. SW stated she has spoken with author to prepare the proposal for posting to the PPML, which should happen very soon.

7. Policy Proposal 2006-6: Bulk WHOIS Agreement Expiration Clarification

The Vice Chair stated that the author (Bill Woodcock) has formally withdrawn this proposal.

8. APNIC 22 Meeting Trip Report

MA, AP and SW attended APNIC 22 held in Taiwan. They observed that APNIC has similar issues regarding separating operational matters from policy matters as does ARIN.

9. AC Projects

A. Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) IPv6 Editing.  LR stated that at the last IETF meeting, she followed up on a discussion that best practices reside with the IETF, and stated that the V6 Op Chair is interested in this idea. LR asked for volunteers to draft a suggestion to the IETF, but no one has volunteered.  She stated she will draft a document before the next IETF meeting, and it can be discussed in St. Louis during the ARIN meeting.

B. v6 Multi-homing BCP. MA stated that during the APNIC meeting, one member was asked how multi-homing would work for v6 and someone else answered ‘It just will'.  MA reported that presented the issue and a list of suggestions. Only 2 people responded (from the RIPE region) and asked questions. After the presentation and discussion, the APNIC community did request a document with possible solutions indicating all the pros and cons of the issue. MA stated that she is drafting this document, and will post it to the NRO website hopefully by the week of September 25th. She explained that she is gathering input from all viewpoints from all communities in an effort to produce an open, and unbiased, document. 

RP stated that MA will be presenting her information at the following meetings: NANOG, ARIN, RIPE and AFRINIC.

LR stated that Geoff Huston had posted a statement implying that APNIC was moving toward counting HD ratios on /56. AP confirmed that that was discussed at the APNIC meeting and there was consensus for that.

C. PPML Polling.  DA stated that he had no update at this time.

10. Any Other Business

Counsel provided an update to the AC on litigation matters. 

The Vice Chair reminded the AC to register for the ARIN XVIII if they had not done so.

11. Adjournment

The Vice Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:45 p.m. EDT.  PA moved to adjourn and this was seconded by LR. The motion carried unanimously.