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ARIN 33 Public Policy Meeting Notes - Monday, 14 April 2014

Table of Contents

Opening And Announcements

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Transcript

Highlights:

  • Introductions
  • Meeting Attendee Overview
    • Total attendees:153 (7 from Canada, 88 from the US, two from the Caribbean, 14 from outside the ARIN region, 42 registered remote participants)
  • Sponsor acknowledgement
  • First Timers' Orientation Recap (Raffle Winner: Jason Craft, Interactive Data)
  • Overview of meeting rules
  • Discussion moderator: Vinton G. Cerf, Chair, ARIN Board of Trustees
  • Agenda overview
  • Overview of ARIN Meeting Materials

Attendees present in session room: approximately 110

Remote participants present: approximately 12

Unique webcast viewers: 222

AC On-Docket Proposals Report

Speaker: John Sweeting, Chair, ARIN Advisory Council
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Highlights:

  • AC overview – charged as primary facilitators of the Policy Development Process
  • Current Draft Policies & Proposals
    • Four Recommended Draft Policies
    • Ten Draft Policies
    • No Policy Proposals
  • Policy Breakout Room information – can be used by anyone interested in working on policy
  • Lunch table topic information – join an AC member to discuss a topic
  • Review of rules of discussion

There were no comments or questions from the floor following this presentation.

Regional PDP Report

Speaker: Einar Bohlin, Senior Policy Analyst
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Highlights:

  • Overview of proposal topics currently under discussion at all five RIRs
  • Highlights from other RIRs
    • IPv4 proposals
    • IPv6 proposals
    • Others
  • URLs for each RIR's policy and proposal information

There were no comments or questions from the floor following this presentation.

Policy Implementation And Experience Report

Speaker: Leslie Nobile, ARIN Director of Registration Services
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Highlights:

  • No new policies implemented since ARIN 32
  • Question at hand: Will new or first time ISP requesters be able to qualify for IPv4 space under existing ARIN policies after free pool depletion?
    • New requestor statistics and other RIRs' austerity policies
    • Potential pitfalls for new ISPs in the ARIN region
      • NRPM 8.3 and 8.4 – transfers overview
      • NRPM 4.2.2.1.1 AND 4.2.2.2 overview
      • Options
    • Use existing policy?
    • Modify existing policy?
    • Create new policy?

There were no comments or questions from the floor following this presentation.

IPv6 IAB/IETF Activities Report

Speaker: Cathy Aronson, ARIN Advisory Council
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Highlights:

  • Overview of IETF 88 and 89
    • WHY 64? draft-carpenter-6man-why64-01
    • Internet-wide Geo-Networking BOF
    • RPKI and origin validation in Ecuador
    • Measuring Google's Public DNS, using google services to measure Google 8.8.8.8
    • Measuring DNSSEC
    • Paul Vixie on the value of DNS Security Features
    • IPv6 Matrix overview
    • BGP configuration statistics
    • IPv6 maintenance
    • London technical plenary overview
    • HOMENET overview
    • ISOC Briefing Panel overview
    • V6 Operations overview
    • IGOV Update
    • Locator/ID Separation overview
    • Web Extensible Internet Registration Data Service overview
    • Benchmarking methodology overview
    • Dynamic Host Configuration overview
    • GEOPRIV update
    • IRTF Network Management
    • Perpass BoF overview
    • DNS operations overview
    • DBOUND: DNS Boundaries
    • 6LO Overview
    • IRTF Data Defined Networking
    • SPRING: Source Packet Routing in Networking
    • IETF drafts to browse

ARIN-2013-7: NRPM 4 (IPv4) Policy Cleanup

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Scott Leibrand, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-190 (Jul 2013)
    • AC Shepherds: Scott Leibrand, Kevin Blumberg, John Springer
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in August 2013
    • Presented at NANOG 59, ARIN 32, NANOG 60
    • Revised, AC recommended adoption March 2014
    • Draft Policy text
  • Staff summary and assessment - no potential operational impact
  • Legal assessment - no legal concerns

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Problem statement
  • Policy summary
  • Policy details and rationale
  • Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • The removal of 4.2.4.3 and its impact on slow start
  • Impact on Number Resource Policy Manual  sections 4.1.1 and 4.1.5
  • Text clarification regarding 24-month supplies via an 8.3 or 8.4 transfer
  • Impact on current immediate need policy
  • Post vote concerned raised about small number of participants

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against proposal as written, with slight modification regarding slow start:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 101
  • In favor: 21
  • Against: 1

ARIN-2014-4: Remove 4.2.5 Web Hosting Policy

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: John Springer, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-196 (Jan 2014)
    • AC Shepherds: John Springer, Andrew Dul
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in January 2014
    • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
    • AC recommended adoption March 2014
    • Draft Policy text
  • Staff summary and assessment – minimal resource impact
  • Legal assessment – no legal concerns

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Problem statement
  • Current language
  • Policy statement
  • Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Clarification on previous allocation utilization requirements
  • Impact on transit providers and web hosters

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against proposal as written:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 103
  • In favor: 32
  • Against: 0

ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Andrew Dul, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-200 (Jan 2014)
    • AC Shepherds: Andrew Dul, Robert Seastrom
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in January 2014
    • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
    • AC recommended adoption March 2014
    • Draft Policy text
  • Staff summary and assessment – minimal resource impact
  • Legal assessment – no legal concerns

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Problem statement
  • Policy statement
  • Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Impact on exchange points during their startup phase
  • Impact on renumbering situations
  • Caribbean IXPs with potential for only two members
  • Distinctions between two-member and three-member IXPs should they lose a member
  • Rural US IXPs that, despite being disadvantaged, found their way to multiple members
  • Cost associated with reverse DNS delegation for small blocks in ARIN's infrastructure

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll: for/against proposal as written:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 101
  • In favor: 32
  • Against: 2

API Software And Development Toolkit

Speaker: Andy Newton, ARIN Chief Engineer
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

  • Engineering progress overview
  • API overview
  • Public vs provisioning interfaces
  • API keys
  • Email template usage
  • RESTful usage
  • Operational Test & Evaluation environment
  • Bulk Whois
  • Whois vs Whois-RWS
  • ARINcli toolset- Community Projects
    • arininfo, a Whois-RWS client
    • rdns, managing reverse DNS
    • other ARIN tools
  • Registry Data Access Protoc
  • ol (RDAP) overview
  • ARIN RDAP Pilot and Code

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Current plans regarding transitioning to the global RDAP standard
  • IETF timeline for solidifying the RDAP standard
  • Bulk Whois access requirements
  • User authentication issue clarification

ARIN-2014-10: Remove Sections 4.6 and 4.7

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Tina Morris, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-201 (Jan 2014)
    • The ARIN Board of Trustees suspended sections 4.6 and 4.7 of the Number Resource Policy Manual at their January 6, 2014 meeting.
    • AC Shepherds: Tina Morris, Robert Seastrom
    • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in February 2014
    • AC recommended adoption March 2014
    • Draft Policy text
  • Staff summary and assessment – no operational impact
  • Legal assessment – no legal concerns

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Context
  • Problem statement
  • Policy statement
  • Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Clarification that 2014-10 is IPv4-specific

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against proposal as written:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 92
  • In favor: 32
  • Against: 0

ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations For New Multiple Discrete Networks

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Cathy Aronson, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-191 (Nov 2013)
    • ARIN staff reported on this at ARIN 32
    • AC Shepherds: Cathy Aronson, Owen DeLong, Robert Seastrom
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Nov 2013
    • AC recommended adoption in March 2014
    • Presented at NANOG 60
    • Revised and reverted to Draft
    • Draft Policy text
  • Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • History of the draft policy
  • Post-PPC policy statement
  • Newly modified policy statement
  • Additional Information

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Concern about universally adding requirements that only improve the process for a small minority
  • Concern about ARIN's ability to clearly template their requirements for proof of connectivity
  • Significant discussion surrounding evidence of connectivity contract versus evidence of deployment

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 109
  • In favor: 21
  • Against: 7

Customer Survey Results

Speaker: Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Chief Information Officer
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

  • Survey purpose
  • Survey timeline and process
  • Survey promotion overview
  • Background and methodology
  • Survey feedback details

Discussion transcript

Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Survey gap analysis clarification
  • Request for comparison between customer satisfaction survey responses and general meeting survey responses
  • Concern regarding ambiguity among some responses and gaps
  • Clarification about NANOG member responses to the survey

ARIN-2014-6: Remove 7.1 [Maintaining IN-ADDRs]

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Robert Seastrom, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-198 (Jan 2014)
    • AC Shepherds: Robert Seastrom, Stacy Hughes
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Jan 2014
    • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
    • Draft Policy text
  • Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Policy statement
  • Staff and legal assessment – no operational impact
  • Further thoughts – no legal concerns

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Concern that it is inconsistent to remove this language as it relates to IPv4 but not IPv6
  • Publication of ARIN operational documents
  • Concern over removing reverse DNS service coverage from NRPM
  • Request to have the text, if kept, be aligned with IPv6 in regards to the /16 cutoff
  • Concern regarding the general wordiness of NRPM
  • Importance of having an IPv4 equivalent to NRPM 6.5.6

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll: for/against continuing work on the proposal:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 94
  • In favor: 16
  • Against: 3

ARIN-2014-5: Remove 7.2 Lame Delegations

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Speaker: Robert Seastrom, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF PPTX
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

  • History
    • Origin: ARIN-prop-197 (Jan 2014)
    • AC Shepherds: Stacy Hughes, Robert Seastrom
    • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Jan 2014
    • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
    • Draft Policy text
  • Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

  • Problem statement
  • Policy statement
  • Staff and legal assessments – no operational changes and no legal concerns
  • 2014-5's place in the NRPM
  • Further thoughts

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • The importance of lame delegation testing for root operators
  • Suggestion that ARIN pick up the ball in terms of testing DNS below it
  • Whether or not the Number Resource Policy Manual should serve as a place for member input on ARIN operational services

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against the proposal as written:

  • Total attendees/remote participants: 89
  • In favor: 25
  • Against: 3

ARIN Consultation And Suggestion Process Report

Speaker: Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Chief Information Officer
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

  • Current ACSP Open Consultation
  • 2013 Participation overview
  • How to participate in the ACSP

Questions/Discussion Topics:

  • Clarification on the purpose of community consultations for ARIN staff
  • Message receipts for consultation responses

Software Development Update

Speaker: Nate Davis, ARIN Chief Operating Officer
Presentation: PDF PPTX
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

  • Overview of software development projects completed since ARIN 32
    • Migrated from Oracle to Postgres
    • Feeback button on the website
    • POC enhancement validation
  • Initiatives to be deployed in 2014
    • Shared ticketing
    • Signing ARIN's forward DNS zones
    • Display version of agreement signed
    • Bringing transfers into ARIN Online
  • Prioritization influences
    • Policy implementations
    • Legal concerns – subpoenas
    • Ad hoc mailing list requests
    • Consultation and Suggestion Process
    • Operational plans
    • Board initiatives
  • Board guidance on project prioritization

There were no questions or discussion topics following this presentation.

Closing Announcements and Adjournment

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO
Transcript

Highlights:

Adjournment (4:34 PM)

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