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ACSP Suggestion 2013.4: Change Whois output for certain /8 records


John Knowles
Submitted On:
22 February 2013

I would like ARIN to consider and act on this request so suppress the RIR /8 output when a more specific DA or DS exists, and instead, display the DA or DS.

This is specify for 154/8 however I feel it should cover any space ARIN has in it's registry.

This request is intended to allow the referrals for the specific space to be returned.

Please see ARIN-20130219.211 for additional information behind this request.

Timeframe: Immediate

26 September 2013

Tracking Information

ARIN Comment

22 March 2013

Thank you for your suggestion. This behavior started when Whois-RWS rolled out in March 2011. The issue exists only with ERX space (where another RIR is authoritative for the /8). We don't show /8's in ARIN space if the query hits a DA or DS record. It does break RWhois referrals, but as far as we know, that is all that it breaks. So ARIN essentially has 2 choices here:

  • Continue to show the majority RIR when someone looks up an IP address outside of the ARIN region Or
  • Stop showing the ERX /8 record, which fixes the rwhois referral problem. But keep in mind, if we remove the /8 for the minority /8s, we won't be telling folks which RIR has the block they're looking for.

We believe that it would be prudent to put this suggestion, with potential solutions, out to the community as a consultation in order to get additional feedback on this issue. Please be sure to add your opinion to the consultation.

ARIN Comment

03 June 2013

The ARIN community consultation on a proposed change to Whois output for certain /8 records is now closed. Based on feedback received and internal staff deliberation, ARIN's directory services (Whois and Whois-RWS) will be modified to publish only the DA or DS record for an allocation made in a /8 where another RIR manages that particular /8. If there is no corresponding DA or DS record in ARIN's service for that /8, ARIN will publish the /8 of the authoritative RIR and the referral to that particular RIR's directory service.

This suggestion will be added to the list of outstanding projects awaiting prioritization found at:

This suggestion will remain open.

ARIN Comment

26 September 2013

As part of the ARIN 32 ACSP Consultation: Open Suggestion Review and Project Prioritization Survey, we're providing feedback and estimates on the predicted work involved. For this suggestion, the following is noted:

Estimated staff effort to implement: 2.5 person months, plus communications efforts.

For information about the consultation and how to participate in the survey, please see the 26 September 2013 announcement.