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ACSP Suggestion 2013.4: Change Whois output for certain /8 records

Suggestion

Author:
John Knowles
Submitted On:
22 February 2013

I would like ARIN to consider and act on this request so suppress the RIR /8 output when a more specific DA or DS exists, and instead, display the DA or DS.

This is specify for 154/8 however I feel it should cover any space ARIN has in it's registry.

This request is intended to allow the referrals for the specific space to be returned.

Please see ARIN-20130219.211 for additional information behind this request.

Timeframe: Immediate

Status:
Closed
Updated:
22 June 2015

Tracking Information

ARIN Comment

22 March 2013

Thank you for your suggestion. This behavior started when Whois-RWS rolled out in March 2011. The issue exists only with ERX space (where another RIR is authoritative for the /8). We don't show /8's in ARIN space if the query hits a DA or DS record. It does break RWhois referrals, but as far as we know, that is all that it breaks. So ARIN essentially has 2 choices here:

  • Continue to show the majority RIR when someone looks up an IP address outside of the ARIN region Or
  • Stop showing the ERX /8 record, which fixes the rwhois referral problem. But keep in mind, if we remove the /8 for the minority /8s, we won't be telling folks which RIR has the block they're looking for.

We believe that it would be prudent to put this suggestion, with potential solutions, out to the community as a consultation in order to get additional feedback on this issue. Please be sure to add your opinion to the consultation.

ARIN Comment

03 June 2013

The ARIN community consultation on a proposed change to Whois output for certain /8 records is now closed. Based on feedback received and internal staff deliberation, ARIN's directory services (Whois and Whois-RWS) will be modified to publish only the DA or DS record for an allocation made in a /8 where another RIR manages that particular /8. If there is no corresponding DA or DS record in ARIN's service for that /8, ARIN will publish the /8 of the authoritative RIR and the referral to that particular RIR's directory service.

This suggestion will be added to the list of outstanding projects awaiting prioritization found at:
https://www.arin.net/features/#tbd

This suggestion will remain open.

ARIN Comment

26 September 2013

As part of the ARIN 32 ACSP Consultation: Open Suggestion Review and Project Prioritization Survey, we're providing feedback and estimates on the predicted work involved. For this suggestion, the following is noted:

Estimated staff effort to implement: 2.5 person months, plus communications efforts.

For information about the consultation and how to participate in the survey, please see the 26 September 2013 announcement.

ARIN Comment

22 June 2015

Thank you for your suggestion, numbered 2013.4 upon confirmed receipt. Your suggestion has been completed and is now closed.

As of ARIN's software deployment on 20 June 2015, ARIN's directory services (Whois and Whois-RWS) will be modified to publish only the DA or DS record for an allocation made in a /8 where another RIR manages that particular /8. If there is no corresponding DA or DS record in ARIN's service for that /8, ARIN will publish the /8 of the authoritative RIR and the referral to that particular RIR's directory service.

Thank you for your participation in the ARIN Suggestion and Consultation Process.