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Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 17 June 2010
Teleconference

Minutes

Attendees:

  • John Sweeting, Chair
  • Scott Leibrand (SL), Vice Chair 
  • Dan Alexander (DA)  
  • Marla Azinger (MA)
  • Marc Crandall (MC)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)   
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Stacy Hughes (SH)
  • Bill Sandiford (BS)
  • Robert Seastrom (RS)
  • Tom Zeller (TZ) 

Minute Taker

  • Therese Colosi

ARIN Staff:

  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Nate Davis, COO
  • Leslie Nobile, Director, Registration Services

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen M. Ryan

Apologies:

  • Cathy Aronson, Chris Morrow, Heather Schiller

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:06 PM EDT. The presence of quorum was noted. It was noted RS would be delayed.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Chair called for any comments. BS stated he had time constraints and may need to leave the meeting early.  The Chair acknowledged his request.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by SH, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of May 20, 2010, as written.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously with no objections.

4. Draft Policy 2010-1: Waiting List for Un-Met IPv4 Requests

RS joined at this time (4:09 PM EDT).

It was moved by SL, and seconded by BD, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, based on comments from stakeholders expressed either at the ARIN XXV Public Policy Meeting, or on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List, having reviewed the comments collected, and noting that the Policy Development Process has been followed, finds Advisory Council and Community support for Draft Policy 2010-1: Waiting List for Un-Met IPv4 Requests, with minor modifications.  The ARIN Advisory Council moves to forward to an extended Last Call of 20 days the revised version of Draft Policy 2010-1, as posted to the AC wiki and the AC mailing list."

The Chair called for discussion. SL stated the text was edited per DA’s suggestions. No further discussion or suggestions were seen on the AC’s mailing list or the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML). DF supported the edited text and the motion. It was noted that this text allows one to receive the closest allocation to what is requested, if the exact allocation request is unavailable.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call.

5. Draft Policy 2010-2:  /24 End User Minimum Allocation Unit

It was moved by OD, and seconded by BD, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, based on comments from stakeholders expressed either at the ARIN XXV Public Policy Meeting, or on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List, having reviewed the comments collected during the Last Call period, and noting that the Policy Development Process has been followed, supports Draft Policy 2010-2: /24 End User Minimum Allocation Unit, and recommends the ARIN Board of Trustees adopt it."

The Chair called for discussion. MA stated she was opposed to the motion, as she felt the policy was a bad idea and would support a motion to abandon if made. RS agreed. OD stated that there had been strong consensus for this policy at the ARIN XXV meeting. He felt it a positive move and that it was good policy.  SL agreed with OD, but also respected AC member’s differing opinions.

The Chair asked RS why he might be opposed. RS stated he was on the fence, but leaned toward the thought that the policy does not fix anything, and because of that, it falls into wasting more time with IPv4 policy. SL noted that transfers are based on current minimum prefix sizes. Currently, /24s can be transferred as long as it is for critical infrastructure. Policy 2010-2 will reduce the overall minimum to /24, making /24s transferable for more than just critical infrastructure.  RS felt SL made an excellent point.

The motion carried with 8 in favor and 4 against (DA, MA, MC, RS) via roll call.

BS stated he needed to leave the meeting at this time (4:21 pm EDT).

6. Draft Policy 2010-4: Re-Work of IPv6 Allocation Criteria

Per the AC’s recommendation, the ARIN Board ratified this policy during their meeting on May 27, 2010.

7. Draft Policy 2010-6: Simplified M&A Transfer Policy

Per the AC’s recommendation, the ARIN Board ratified this policy during their meeting on May 27, 2010.

8. Draft Policy 2010-8: Rework of IPv6 Assignment Criteria

DF stated that intends to post comments shortly to discuss the direction of this draft policy to the PPML.

9.  Proposal 109: Standardize IP Reassignment Registration Requirements

MA stated she spoke with Chris Grundeman and he has modified the document with edits as discussed. MA sent the modified text to the AC’s list, and posted it to the discussion area of the AC Wiki.  MA felt the edits were satisfactory, and ready for staff assessment.

The Chair asked staff for the timeline on this proposal. EB stated staff would need the text by July 1.  The Chair tasked MA to send a message to him, requesting the staff assessment and to assign it a policy number. MA agreed to do so.

10. Proposal 111: IPv4 Fragment Management Policy Proposal

It was moved by OD, and seconded by SL, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposal entitled ‘IPv4 Fragment Management Policy Proposal’, abandons it. The Council requests that the President advise the community of the availability of the Petition Process."

The Chair called for discussion.  OD stated that this proposal is now moot, due to the vote on 2010-1.  SL agreed. Chair reminded the AC that the vote on 2010-1 is an extended last call. All felt comfortable with the status, and with this motion.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call.

11. Proposal 113: IPv6 for 6rd

MA stated she had received input very recently and posted the proposal to the AC Wiki. She provided an overview of the edits. MA stated that she believed it is ready to move forward, but needs more time to provide staff with answers to their clarity and understanding report questions.

The Chair asked if the AC was ready to turn to this proposal into a draft policy. SL stated he needed to read it and provide feedback on the AC list.

12.  Any Other Business

A)  AC April Workshop items.

  • MA to work with Chris Grundeman on SWIP proposal. Covered under discussion of Item 9 above.
  • CA, BD and SL: Global Transfer for IANA. Discussed as part of the update on Proposal 115, below.
  • Proposal 115:  Global Policy for IPv4 Allocations by the IANA Post-Exhaustion.

It was moved by BD, and seconded by SH, that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposal entitled ‘Global Policy for IPv4 Allocations by the IANA Post-Exhaustion’, accepts it onto the AC’s docket."

The Chair called for discussion.  BD stated that though it speaks of need, it is defined in an operational sense as opposed to saying an allocation is justified in its own right. He stated the previous proposal was in the ARIN region and there were concerns that other RIRs would be allocating against policies that did not have a needs-basis.  He stated that it does not prescribe a return mechanism or policy, and felt this was a good aspect. He noted a few nits in references and grammar and that there was modified text proposed on the PPML, but felt that overall the proposal needs to be addressed and to move forward.

SL noted that the proposal has the same pros and cons of 2009-3 that received consensus and was passed in ARIN region. He noted this proposal accomplishes more or less the same thing.

BD stated he anticipated no further changes and that the ASO AC qualified it as a global policy, and it is ready to move forward, with their sponsorship.

The motion carried unanimously via roll call.

  • OD, MA: Section 12. OD posted a suggested policy proposal to the AC’s list, and noted there were not many comments. MA decided to withdraw as a shepherd due to a conflict of interest. OD stated he was looking for feedback and will then move forward.  This document put requirements on when ARIN staff should conduct research reviews.  DF requested OD please resend it to the AC before posting it to the PPML. OD agreed.
  • The Chair called for any volunteers to shepherd or co-author this proposal. SL suggested putting forth a call for co-authors on the PPML.  The Chair stated he would leave it up to OD, as the author.
  • CM, TZ: NRPM Clean-up.  TZ stated he is working on this project. Nothing to report at this time. Chair reminded him of the timeline.
  • DF, SL, TZ: Simplify IPv6.  DF stated he has ideas that he is working on to post to AC’s list.

B)  Duration of AC Meetings.  The Chair stated that the AC’s teleconferences would remain at 60 minutes, but stated they should block 90 minutes in case a meeting runs long, so that they will not be forced to leave the teleconference at the 60-minute mark.

13. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:50 PM EDT. SH moved to adjourn and it was seconded by BD.  The motion carried unanimously with no objections.