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Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 21 August 2008
Via teleconference

Minutes

Attendees:

  • Leo Bicknell (LB), Chair   
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Paul Andersen (PA)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Stacy Hughes (SH)
  • Scott Leibrand (SL)
  • Matt Pounsett (MP)
  • Heather Schiller (HS)
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Therese Colosi, Scribe
  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Nate Davis, COO
  • Richard Jimmerson, CIO
  • Ray Plzak (RP), President & CEO

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen M. Ryan, ESQ

Apologies:

  • Cathy Aronson, Marla Azinger, Alec Peterson, Lea Roberts

Absent:

  • Robert Seastrom

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:04 p.m. EDT. The presence of quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Chair called for any comments. Chair added discussing a new proposal that was received on August 20, 2008, under Any Other Business.

3. Approval of the Minutes

OD moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of July 17, 2008, as written."

This was seconded by BD. The motion carried with no objections.

4. Policy Proposal 2007-17

Legacy Outreach and Partial Reclamation. This policy was ratified and adopted by the ARIN Board during their meeting on August 11, 2008.

5.  Policy Proposal 2007-14

Resource Review Process.  OD (author) stated he made the revisions of minor language tweaks from feedback received.

6.  Policy Proposal 2008-2

IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal. The Chair stated that ARIN staff had sent a survey to the PPML regarding transfer policy, and the results were posted to the AC's list. The Chair called for comments on the results. The AC discussed a holding requirement of 1 to 2 years being palatable to the community based on the results.

The Chair noted in questions 3, 4, 7 and 8 of the survey, the AC had very different answers than the community's answers by comparison; but, the rest of the questions were very close by comparison. He asked the AC what they felt, if anything, needed to be done prior to the ARIN meeting in Los Angeles to this proposal.

After discussing it was the sense of the AC to publish the results of the survey publicly, and edit this proposal based upon said results. RP stated that ARIN staff would publish the survey results on the ARIN website early next week, and send a message to the PPML to list.

OD suggested letting NANOG members also know the results. The Chair stated he would send an email to NANOG after the post appeared on the ARIN web site.

The AC thanked the ARIN staff for their work on the publishing and tracking this survey.

7. Policy Proposal 2008-3

Community Networks IPv6 Allocation. The Chair stated that revisions had been recommended. SH stated she was not aware of any revisions. LR was unavailable to comment.  

HS stated that she did see revisions with regard to community resource holders and non-profit status or sponsorship. RP suggested that the shepherds be more assertive with the authors. SH stated that she and LR would do so and reminded the AC that she would be attending the next ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting (ACSM) in September. OD stated he felt the policy this should exist, although it isn't ready and that its aim was a legitimate need.

SH asked BD for his assistance, and BD agreed. He stated that the policy did need work and the AC should continue forward with it. All agreed.

8.  Policy Proposal 2008-4

Minimum Allocation in the Caribbean Region. The Chair stated that revisions had been recommended. PA updated the AC that the revisions to add NRPM references had been made.  He indicated that he and CA had discussed the addition of assignments, but decided against it because the earlier AFRINIC policy had not included it.  The Chair suggested that the AC members attending the ACSM in September encourage discussion among the community at the meeting to assess their interest and reasoning in incorporating assignments into the policy. He stated that a new or updated policy can be submitted if the community wants to include assignments. OD felt that this should be encouraged and debated at the meeting. BD agreed.

9. Policy Proposal 2008-5

Dedicated IPv4 block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment.  The Chair stated there was no update at this time. OD and MP agreed. MP stated he will speak with the author for any feedback, and try to stir discussion on the PPML.

10. Policy Proposal: "Emergency Transfer Policy for IPv4 Addresses"

The Chair stated that BD was the author and, if accepted, shepherds needed to be assigned. OD volunteered as one of the shepherds.

OD moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposal entitled, "Emergency Transfer Policy for IPv4 Addresses", accepts it as written as a formal policy proposal; and, requests the President assign it a formal policy proposal number."

This was seconded by MP. The Chair called for discussion. BD stated he authored this proposal because he was encouraged to do so, and thought that the complexity of proposal 2008-2 would almost necessarily end in non-consensus. He stated possibly, this policy as simplified, may work. BD expressed that if AC members thought the proposal a bad idea, he would withdraw it without prejudice.  SH, PA, and SL stated they were in favor of moving it forward.

The motion carried with one abstention (BD) via roll call vote.                

The Chair called for a second shepherd for this proposal. SH volunteered as the second shepherd with OD as primary.

11. Policy Proposal: Whois Integrity Policy Proposal

The Chair stated that HS was the author and, if accepted, shepherds needed to be assigned.
           
BD moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposal entitled, "Whois Integrity Policy Proposal", accepts it as written as a formal policy proposal; and, requests the President assign it a formal policy proposal number."

This was seconded by SH. The Chair called for discussion. Discussion ensued on the merits of the Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA) versus a contractual agreement for updating contact information and possibly taking some form of action if it is not updated. After discussing, it was the sense of the AC that this proposal be further discussed on the PPML.

The motion carried with one abstention (HS) via roll call vote.

The Chair called for shepherds. PA and BD volunteered.

12. Policy Proposal: "Whois Authentication Alternatives"

The Chair stated that this was Michael Sinatra's proposal that was submitted past the deadline for October's meeting.

OD moved:

"The ARIN Advisory Council postpones discussion of this proposal until the next regularly scheduled AC teleconference in September; because the proposal will not make it into the process for the ARIN meeting in October as it came in after the deadline."

This was seconded by SL. The Chair called for discussion. It was the sense of the AC that this proposal needed further work on clarity of language and content (operational vs. policy).

The motion carried with one against (PA) via roll call.

13. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business. Chair stated Ted Mittlestaedt had also submitted a proposal past the deadline. He stated that although the AC did not have enough time to discuss it on this teleconference, it would be on their next agenda for September's meeting.

14. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 5:25 p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, and this was seconded by SH. The motion carried unanimously.