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Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 26 January 2006
Teleconference

Minutes

Attendees:

  • Ron da Silva (RD), Chair
  • Alec Peterson (AP), Vice Chair
  • Dan Alexander (DA)
  • Paul Andersen (PA)
  • Cathy Aronson (CJA)
  • Marla Azinger (MA)
  • Leo Bicknell (LB)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Mark Kosters (MK)
  • Matt Pounsett (MP)
  • Lea Roberts (LR)
  • Alex Rubenstein (AR)
  • Stacy Taylor (ST)
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Einar Bohlin (EB), Policy Analyst
  • Therese Colosi, Recording Secretary
  • Nate Davis (ND), Director of Operations
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), Director of External Relations
  • Ray Plzak (RP), President & CEO

ARIN Counsel:

  • Stephen Ryan

Absent:

  • Robert Seastrom

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:07 p.m. EDT. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair welcomed DA and MP to the AC as the newest members.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Chair called for any comments. There were no comments.

3. Selection of the Vice Chair

The Chair selected AP for the position of Vice Chair and thanked him for accepting the position.

4. AC Handbook

The President briefed the AC on the electronic handbook created by ARIN as a resource tool for the AC to access information. The Chair thanked the President for the information.

5. Approval of the Minutes

ST moved that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council adopts the Minutes of October 27, 2005 as written."

This was seconded by MK. The motion carried unanimously.       

ST moved that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council adopts the Minutes of November 17, 2005 as written."

This was seconded by PA. The motion carried unanimously.

ST moved that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council adopts the Minutes of December 15, 2005 as written."

This was seconded by MP. The motion carried unanimously.

6. Policy Proposal 2005-1: Provider-Independent IPv6 Assignments for End Sites

LR stated that discussion was underway on the PPML and it was moving forward. She said that she would keep the AC informed of any updates. 

It was decided to post a notice to the PPML stating that if anyone did not agree with the proposal they should respond on the PPML.

7. Proposal 2005-6: IPv4 Micro-Allocations for Anycast Services

Although a ‘closed' item at the AC's meeting on 10/27/05, the AC did discuss contacting the author.  SW stated she needed guidance as to how to proceed since consensus on this proposal was against it "as written", but consensus was in favor of clarification of the proposal. SW asked if clarification was something ARIN Staff could be tasked with, or was a new policy to be created altogether.

Discussion ensued and the issue arose of whether or not a denial or penalty would be incurred if someone requested a /24 and used it for anycast purposes. After further discussion, BD suggested SW explicitly write her needs to the President and the President would then to take it to Staff.  All agreed.

The Chair requested SW send the summary to President, and also present them to original author stating that if there is an issue, the author should approach ARIN staff directly to address the issue of denial or penalty.

8. Policy Proposal 2005-8: Proposal to Amend ARIN IPv6 Assignment and Utilization Requirement

LR stated that she had been in contact with Thomas Narten regarding an upgrade but it is not finalized.

In the case of amendments such as this, the Chair requested the AC let the authors know of the cut-off period before the next ARIN meeting, so that PPML readers have a chance to see edits to the proposals.

9. Policy Proposal 2005-9: 4-Byte AS Number Policy Proposal

The Chair called for volunteers. AP and BD volunteered to shepherd. The Chair requested MK or MA to also help out, and MK volunteered.  AP and MK were asked to shepherd, and BD withdrew as a volunteer.

10. Policy Proposal: Residential Customer Privacy

PA moved that:

"The ARIN Advisory Council, having reviewed the proposed policy entitled ‘Residential Customer Privacy', accepts the text as submitted by the author as a formal policy proposal and, requests the President assign it a formal policy proposal number."

This was seconded by MA. The Chair called for volunteers with MA and PA volunteering to shepherd the proposal. The motion carried unanimously via roll call.

11. Board Ratification of Policy Proposals

The President stated that the three policy proposals are on the Board's agenda for ratification at the Board's next meeting on February 12, 2006.

  • 2005-4: AFRINIC Recognition Policy
  • 2005-5: IPv6 HD Ratio
  • 2005-7: Rationalize Multi-Homing Definition and Requirement

12. Discussion of IPv6 Policies

The President stated the policy adopted by ARIN was to accept a document that had been drafted and incorporated into the NRPM. Subsequent to that, pieces of the document have been discussed in the ARIN region, and other regions.  The President suggested that, in light of recent discussions, the AC consider revising all IPv6 policies. 

BD suggested having a discussion or holding a presentation at the next ARIN meeting since parties from all the regions will be at the meeting.

The Chair requested the AC to consider President's topic, and BD's suggestion. He requested the AC discuss the subject on their list as to how to communicate the idea. 

BD requested the President to post a summary to the AC's list for discussion. The President agreed.

13. AC Travel to 2006 RIR Meetings

The Chair briefed the AC on: confirmation to ARIN staff on which AC member is attending which meeting; contact ARIN staff if one member wants to switch attendance with another; and, if there are more meetings than available members to attend, another lottery will be conducted.

14. AC Meeting Schedule 2006

The Chair asked the AC to review the list of regularly scheduled meetings.

ST moved that:

        "The ARIN Advisory Council adopts the AC 2006 Meeting Schedule as written."

This was seconded by LR. The motion carried unanimously.

15. AFRINIC II Trip Report

MA stated the conference was very interesting with a lot of political aspects to it, however, after the IPv6 training many attendees left early and did not participate in the policy process. She stated the AFRINIC Board was disappointed in this, but felt that most attendees were already in agreement with the proposals. MA stated that many don't realize the importance of attending this part of the meeting, and suggested possibly placing the policy discussions in between the training to ensure attendance. She further reported that the policy discussions went by quickly, and no one was in opposition.

BD wondered if AFRINIC used a PPML-type of list. The President responded stating that all of the RIRs have a policy discussion list and that it may be beneficial for the AC to subscribe to them. The Chair concurred.

16. Policy Proposal Background Briefing (P2B2)

The President stated that at the AC meeting in October, it was suggested that a brief meeting take place to educate people on current policy proposals, providing history and some technical background. He stated that this will be taking place at the upcoming members meeting and the AC will be asked for input. He further stated that it should be an informal, educational discussion on the background of the policy itself, and not a ‘policy discussion'.

17. Any Other Business

The Chair asked for any other business to discuss. There was no other business.

18. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:55 p.m. EDT. ST moved to adjourn and this was seconded by CJA.  The motion carried unanimously.