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Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council

Thursday, 18 December 2003
Teleconference

Attendees:

Council Members

  • Alec Peterson, Chairman (AP)
  • Bill Darte (BD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • Ron da Silva (RD)
  • Mark Kosters (MK)
  • Kevin Martin (KM)
  • Lea Roberts (LR)
  • John Sweeting (JS)
  • Stacy Taylor (ST)
  • Suzanne Woolf (SW)

ARIN Staff

  • Raymond Plzak, President & CEO
  • Richard Jimmerson, Director of Operation
  • Einar Bohlin, Policy Analyst
  • Therese Colosi, Recording Secretary

Observers

  • Leo Bicknell
  • Robert Seastrom

Apologies: Avi Freedman, Sanford H. George, Cathy Wittbrodt

Absent: Dana Argiro, Dale Finkelson

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:05 p.m. The presence of a quorum was noted.

2. Agenda Bashing

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

3. Formal Approval of the Minutes of October 23, 2003.

BD moved that:

"The ARIN AC adopts the minutes of October 23, 2003 as written."

This was seconded by MK. The motion passed unanimously.

4. Policy Proposal 2002-2: Experimental Internet Resource Allocations.

SW gave an update. She stated that the draft was posted to the AC list that included changes from the ARIN meeting held in Chicago and it also included IETF criterion. The Chair tabled this policy to be discussed on the next AC call so that they could review and discuss it before moving to last call. All agreed.

5. Policy Proposal 2002-3: Micro-Assignments for Multi-homed Networks.

BD gave a last call status update. He stated that there was consensus on this proposal. He was concerned that the current title should be clarified and suggested "Address Policy for Multi-homed Networks". All agreed.

The Chair reminded the AC that the motion was carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward.

Ray Plzak joined call at this time at 3:13 pm EST.

BD moved that:

The title "Micro-Assignments for Multi-homed Networks" associated with Policy Proposal 2002-3 be changed to "Address Policy for Multi-homed Networks".

This was seconded by ST. The motion passed unanimously.

The Chair stated that this title change would not affect the motion that was carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward.

6. Policy Proposal 2003-3: Residential Customer Privacy.

ST gave a last call status update. She reported that nothing new on the PPML had been posted but the same issues regarding spam. All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

7. Policy Proposal 2003-4: IPv6 Policy Changes.

LR gave a last call status update stating that this proposal had not reached consensus. Discussion ensued regarding whether or not to abandon this proposal. Although a global issue, they felt this issue also needed to be clarified within the ARIN region. RJ stated that the minutes of the last ARIN meeting indicated that this proposal be broken into several pieces that would each become new policy proposals.

The AC agreed this should be done with LR suggesting that this not be abandoned, but retained as a placeholder until the new policies began.

The Chair called for volunteers. SW volunteered, with LR and BD to discuss on their list for this proposal. Chair asked ARIN staff to also add AD and RD to the list.

8. Policy Proposal 2003-5: RWhois Server Uses Requirements.

MK gave a last call status update stating that no further comments had been made on the PPML. All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

9. Policy Proposal 2003-9 WHOIS Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).

KM gave an update stating this proposal is under review by legal counsel. The Chair had spoken with the author and discussed the status of the document. RJ stated that he would request an update from Counsel for the discussion group this week. All agreed.

10. AC Utilization Discussion Group Update.

The AC Utilization Group was formed to discuss utilization issues.

11. Policy Proposal 2003-12: IANA to RIR Allocation of IPv4 Addresses.

All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

12. Policy Proposal 2003-13: Six-month Supply of IP Addresses.

All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

13. Policy Proposal 2003-14: Remove /13 Maximum Allocation.

All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

14. Policy Proposal 2003-15: IPv4 Allocation Policy for the Africa Portion of the ARIN Region.

All were in agreement that the motion carried at their last meeting to carry this proposal forward would remain in effect.

15. Policy Proposal 2003-16. POC Verification.

AD gave an update stating that he had the text and would present a revised version at next meeting. RJ stated that there had also been a request by the discussion group for ARIN staff to do an impact study, and it had been sent this morning to the list. AD confirmed that he had received it, and thanked him for it.

16. Discussion of Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process.

After a brief discussion the Chair was agreeable to the document, but requested a change to ten (10) "business" days in lieu of ten (10) days as stated in the initial AC Review Section. All agreed.

17. Review of Open Action Item List.

OPEN ACTION ITEM LIST:

SEPT03-22 AC

Cable Open Access Policy. At the last AC meeting in September, it was agreed to drop this issue if no interest was shown on the PPML by the time ARIN XIII took place.

10/23 update: DA stated this was back on track and they were figuring out what needs to be addressed, with more questions popping up that need to be addressed.

12/18 update. No progress has been made. RD volunteered to discuss with CJW to put something to the list if there was a question to pose on the list. Update at next meeting. OPEN.

OCT03-23 AC

2002-3 Micro-Assignments for Multi-homed Networks. At the last meeting the Chair stated this would be superceding the existing multi-homed policy and the President requested the AC to recommend this to the ARIN Board. CLOSED.

OCT03-24 AC

Also in regard to 2002-3, Bill Darte suggested that the AC conduct on-going reviews. RP stated implementation considerations by the AC Policy Committee should be sent from the AC to ARIN Staff in writing. ON-GOING.

OCT03-25 AC

WHOIS AUP. AC is to refer the AUP to Counsel for review. The Chair suggested a simpler proposal be drafted, like the current Bulk WHOIS, and leave ARIN Counsel to define how it is communicated to the users.

12/18 update: awaiting counsel's feedback. OPEN

OCT03-26 ARIN Staff.

Create mailing list to include the AC Chair for the Utilization Group (2003-10 Apply the HD ratio for all future IPv4 Allocations). CLOSED.

OCT03-27 ARIN Staff.

AC requested that staff conduct an impact study on the staff time that would be entailed in regard to tracking information with respect to 2003-16: POC Verification.

12/18 update: Review and discuss next call. OPEN

18. Any Other Business.

The Chair asked if there were any other issues to discuss. RP noted that the AC would be electing a new Chair by secret ballot in January. He explained the process and all agreed.

19. Adjournment.

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 3:50 p.m. Chair thanked everyone for their participation in 2003, and thanked the retiring AC members for their contribution. MK moved to adjourn, and this was seconded by LR. The motion passed unanimously.